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March 21st 05, 12:15 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:vpm%d.88814$r55.37719@attbi_s52... Anyone out there have any Girl Scout / aviation stories or experiences? At our airport, again over the years, I've seen Boy Scout groups around but no Girl Scouts. Maybe they've been around and I missed them? It is in the Girl Scout manual that the girls are NOT permitted to fly in private planes -- period, end of story. Mary took this ridiculous rule to the highest levels of Girl Scouting, and was rebuffed at every level. They just regard it as a recklessly dangerous activity, and will not allow it to be done under their auspices. Which is one major reason why Mary has disbanded her Girl Scout troop/den/whatever this year. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Hmmm, we had many, many Girl Scouts show up at the Young Eagles rally here a while back. There is a aviation (or aerospace) badge they can get. 
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March 21st 05, 12:32 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:vpm%d.88814$r55.37719@attbi_s52... Anyone out there have any Girl Scout / aviation stories or experiences? At our airport, again over the years, I've seen Boy Scout groups around but no Girl Scouts. Maybe they've been around and I missed them? It is in the Girl Scout manual that the girls are NOT permitted to fly in private planes -- period, end of story. Mary took this ridiculous rule to the highest levels of Girl Scouting, and was rebuffed at every level. They just regard it as a recklessly dangerous activity, and will not allow it to be done under their auspices. Which is one major reason why Mary has disbanded her Girl Scout troop/den/whatever this year. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" "Blueskies" wrote in message . com... Hmmm, we had many, many Girl Scouts show up at the Young Eagles rally here a while back. There is a aviation (or aerospace) badge they can get. Interesting. My ex-wife is leader of my daughter's brownie troop. I would love nothing more, than to give a little talk about aviation during a field trip to the airport. Let the girls see/touch/sit in the plane. Hadn't considered any rides, due to too many nervous moms to deal with. I wasn't sure where to even look up any info on how to make a proper presentation. I would never have thought some manual would prohibit it. Weird.
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March 21st 05, 02:04 AM
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My department's administrative assistant is a Girl Scout troop leader.
When I offered Young Eagle rides to her troop last summer, she said exactly what is described here--anything having to do with airplanes is all right except actually flying in them (I'll assume that taxiing is a problem, too). She said a trip to the airport with them sitting in the plane was fine. The whole thing rather turned me off. I got them model airplane kits instead. I do buy their cookies. David Steven Barnes wrote: "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:vpm%d.88814$r55.37719@attbi_s52... Anyone out there have any Girl Scout / aviation stories or experiences? At our airport, again over the years, I've seen Boy Scout groups around but no Girl Scouts. Maybe they've been around and I missed them? It is in the Girl Scout manual that the girls are NOT permitted to fly in private planes -- period, end of story. Mary took this ridiculous rule to the highest levels of Girl Scouting, and was rebuffed at every level. They just regard it as a recklessly dangerous activity, and will not allow it to be done under their auspices. Which is one major reason why Mary has disbanded her Girl Scout troop/den/whatever this year. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" "Blueskies" wrote in message . com... Hmmm, we had many, many Girl Scouts show up at the Young Eagles rally here a while back. There is a aviation (or aerospace) badge they can get. Interesting. My ex-wife is leader of my daughter's brownie troop. I would love nothing more, than to give a little talk about aviation during a field trip to the airport. Let the girls see/touch/sit in the plane. Hadn't considered any rides, due to too many nervous moms to deal with. I wasn't sure where to even look up any info on how to make a proper presentation. I would never have thought some manual would prohibit it. Weird.
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#4
March 21st 05, 02:11 AM
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major snip "Steven Barnes" wrote in message om... "Blueskies" wrote in message . com... Hmmm, we had many, many Girl Scouts show up at the Young Eagles rally here a while back. There is a aviation (or aerospace) badge they can get. Interesting. My ex-wife is leader of my daughter's brownie troop. I would love nothing more, than to give a little talk about aviation during a field trip to the airport. Let the girls see/touch/sit in the plane. Hadn't considered any rides, due to too many nervous moms to deal with. I wasn't sure where to even look up any info on how to make a proper presentation. I would never have thought some manual would prohibit it. Weird. We've faced a similar problem with Boy Scouts. They are not allowed to fly in EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Makes it tough when the EAA chapter is giving the rides, and huge surprise!! most of the aircraft are Experimental. We've started telling Scout groups that their members are welcome to come fly at Young Eagle events, but not to do it as part of an official scout activity - i.e. no uniform, etc. Works fine. KB
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#5
March 21st 05, 03:07 AM
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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message ... major snip "Steven Barnes" wrote in message om... "Blueskies" wrote in message . com... Hmmm, we had many, many Girl Scouts show up at the Young Eagles rally here a while back. There is a aviation (or aerospace) badge they can get. Interesting. My ex-wife is leader of my daughter's brownie troop. I would love nothing more, than to give a little talk about aviation during a field trip to the airport. Let the girls see/touch/sit in the plane. Hadn't considered any rides, due to too many nervous moms to deal with. I wasn't sure where to even look up any info on how to make a proper presentation. I would never have thought some manual would prohibit it. Weird. We've faced a similar problem with Boy Scouts. They are not allowed to fly in EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Makes it tough when the EAA chapter is giving the rides, and huge surprise!! most of the aircraft are Experimental. We've started telling Scout groups that their members are welcome to come fly at Young Eagle events, but not to do it as part of an official scout activity - i.e. no uniform, etc. Works fine. KB So Boy Scouts in uniform cannot ride in an experimental aircraft? As long as it is not officially sanctioned by the BSA or the troop, there should be no concern about what they are wearing... To take this further, there is a huge perception issue here. The AOPA and EAA should get out and promote aviation at these associations. I know I have pushed around here to get things going (my daughter is 11 and was a girl scout, troop broke up). Seems pretty odd that the EAA would even play along under these restrictions; the whole point is to promote experimental aircraft. Funny how we roll over just to get the numbers up...
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#6
March 23rd 05, 07:09 PM
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With the BSA the problem is Lawyers..........Not parents of the kids.
"Blueskies" wrote in message m... "Kyle Boatright" wrote in message ... major snip "Steven Barnes" wrote in message om... "Blueskies" wrote in message . com... Hmmm, we had many, many Girl Scouts show up at the Young Eagles rally here a while back. There is a aviation (or aerospace) badge they can get. Interesting. My ex-wife is leader of my daughter's brownie troop. I would love nothing more, than to give a little talk about aviation during a field trip to the airport. Let the girls see/touch/sit in the plane. Hadn't considered any rides, due to too many nervous moms to deal with. I wasn't sure where to even look up any info on how to make a proper presentation. I would never have thought some manual would prohibit it. Weird. We've faced a similar problem with Boy Scouts. They are not allowed to fly in EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Makes it tough when the EAA chapter is giving the rides, and huge surprise!! most of the aircraft are Experimental. We've started telling Scout groups that their members are welcome to come fly at Young Eagle events, but not to do it as part of an official scout activity - i.e. no uniform, etc. Works fine. KB So Boy Scouts in uniform cannot ride in an experimental aircraft? As long as it is not officially sanctioned by the BSA or the troop, there should be no concern about what they are wearing... To take this further, there is a huge perception issue here. The AOPA and EAA should get out and promote aviation at these associations. I know I have pushed around here to get things going (my daughter is 11 and was a girl scout, troop broke up). Seems pretty odd that the EAA would even play along under these restrictions; the whole point is to promote experimental aircraft. Funny how we roll over just to get the numbers up...
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#7
March 21st 05, 01:04 PM
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
We've faced a similar problem with Boy Scouts. They are not allowed to fly in EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Makes it tough when the EAA chapter is giving the rides, and huge surprise!! most of the aircraft are Experimental. We've started telling Scout groups that their members are welcome to come fly at Young Eagle events, but not to do it as part of an official scout activity - i.e. no uniform, etc. The Boy Sprouts also require a million dollars of liability insurance and require you to disclose all sorts of stuff (carrier, etc...) prior to allowing you to fly them. The school system here had a cow when Margy wanted to announce the YE events at her school.
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#8
March 22nd 05, 08:07 AM
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The EAA provides the 1 million smooth that BSA requires. I've done this
many times, EAA is very familar with working with BSA. Girl Scouts are another story. No airplanes, no mater what (although I'm not sure why my box of Girl Scout cookies shows a bunch of girls sitting in a GA plane) -Robert BSA registered leader.
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#9
March 22nd 05, 05:49 PM
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Ron Natalie wrote:
Kyle Boatright wrote: We've faced a similar problem with Boy Scouts. They are not allowed to fly in EXPERIMENTAL aircraft. Makes it tough when the EAA chapter is giving the rides, and huge surprise!! most of the aircraft are Experimental. We've started telling Scout groups that their members are welcome to come fly at Young Eagle events, but not to do it as part of an official scout activity - i.e. no uniform, etc. The Boy Sprouts also require a million dollars of liability insurance and require you to disclose all sorts of stuff (carrier, etc...) prior to allowing you to fly them. The school system here had a cow when Margy wanted to announce the YE events at her school. Years ago our chapter decided not to fly Boy Scouts as a scout function because of their rules. We tried to work with the local council and did not win. We will fly scouts and for merit badges, but they come as individuals out of uniform. BTW the $1M is covered by national EAA if the pilot/owner has the mininum insurance. Ross
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March 24th 05, 01:37 AM
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Ross Richardson wrote:
Years ago our chapter decided not to fly Boy Scouts as a scout function because of their rules. We tried to work with the local council and did not win. We will fly scouts and for merit badges, but they come as individuals out of uniform. BTW the $1M is covered by national EAA if the pilot/owner has the mininum insurance. Yep, and that's how I did it. I was actually flying boy scouts when my engine blew up. The EAA thanked me for not killing any young eagles. We didn't bother telling the Boy Scouts.
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