what is a fender washer?

" jls" wrote in message ...

"Blueskies" wrote in message
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" jls" wrote in message

A hardware store washer will be just fine as long as the purpose and use
is understood. This is the homebuilt forum,
right? Nothing illegal about its use at all....

You're right, Mr. Blueskies. I stand corrected. Cad plating on a washer
is unnecessary but it sure helps on the bolt and nut.

Now safety is an entirely different matter....





Most if not all washers I see in the hardware stores are plated, if not Cad then nickel. I don't recall seeing any plain
ones lately...

"Blueskies" wrote in message
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Most if not all washers I see in the hardware stores are plated, if not
Cad then nickel. I don't recall seeing any plain ones lately...

Lowes and Home Dee-pot are *not* hardware stores. . . ;-)

Rich

Lowes and Home Dee-pot are *not* hardware stores. . . ;-)


That's true.....but they're the closest thing to a hardware store that I have
seen for many years. Where did all the GOOD hardware stores go.

I went into Menards a few weeks ago looking for a 3 inch V-belt pulley for an
air compressor. The person who waited on me had no idea what a pulley was.
He started showing me ratchet cable "pullers"....like a "come-along." Last
month I went into the same store and asked if they carried tap and die sets.
Again...the person who waited on me didn't have a clue as to what I was talking
about.

I miss the days when I could take an obscure looking part into the store, and
the clerk (usually the owner) knew exactly what it was and how it was used.
There just aren't any stores like that around anymore.

I must sound like an old f*rt reminiscing about the good old days. I am a
YOUNG 47 year old male.

Dave

"VideoFlyer" wrote in message
...
Lowes and Home Dee-pot are *not* hardware stores. . . ;-)


That's true.....but they're the closest thing to a hardware store that I
have
seen for many years. Where did all the GOOD hardware stores go.

The only ones around the Northwest are McLendon's chain of stores
http://www.mclendons.com/. They *train* their staff!

Rich S.

On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:58:49 -0800, "Rich S."
wrote:

"VideoFlyer" wrote in message
...
Lowes and Home Dee-pot are *not* hardware stores. . . ;-)


That's true.....but they're the closest thing to a hardware store that I
have
seen for many years. Where did all the GOOD hardware stores go.

The only ones around the Northwest are McLendon's chain of stores
http://www.mclendons.com/. They *train* their staff!

I'll second that; they actually carry repair parts...not just replacement
assemblies.

I've had pretty good luck at Coast-To-Coast, too, though I think they're getting
hammered by the big box stores.

Ron Wanttaja

"VideoFlyer" wrote in message ...
Lowes and Home Dee-pot are *not* hardware stores. . . ;-)


That's true.....but they're the closest thing to a hardware store that I have
seen for many years. Where did all the GOOD hardware stores go.

I went into Menards a few weeks ago looking for a 3 inch V-belt pulley for an
air compressor. The person who waited on me had no idea what a pulley was.
He started showing me ratchet cable "pullers"....like a "come-along." Last
month I went into the same store and asked if they carried tap and die sets.
Again...the person who waited on me didn't have a clue as to what I was talking
about.

I miss the days when I could take an obscure looking part into the store, and
the clerk (usually the owner) knew exactly what it was and how it was used.
There just aren't any stores like that around anymore.

I must sound like an old f*rt reminiscing about the good old days. I am a
YOUNG 47 year old male.

Dave

We have a really good Ace Hardware store here. I know they are struggling with Menards, The Home Depot, and Lowes within
4 miles. I use them every chance I get...

On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 02:08:45 GMT, "Blueskies"
wrote:


"VideoFlyer" wrote in message ...
Lowes and Home Dee-pot are *not* hardware stores. . . ;-)


That's true.....but they're the closest thing to a hardware store that I have
seen for many years. Where did all the GOOD hardware stores go.

I went into Menards a few weeks ago looking for a 3 inch V-belt pulley for an
air compressor. The person who waited on me had no idea what a pulley was.
He started showing me ratchet cable "pullers"....like a "come-along." Last
month I went into the same store and asked if they carried tap and die sets.
Again...the person who waited on me didn't have a clue as to what I was talking
about.

I miss the days when I could take an obscure looking part into the store, and
the clerk (usually the owner) knew exactly what it was and how it was used.
There just aren't any stores like that around anymore.

I must sound like an old f*rt reminiscing about the good old days. I am a
YOUNG 47 year old male.

Dave

We have a really good Ace Hardware store here. I know they are struggling with Menards, The Home Depot, and Lowes within
4 miles. I use them every chance I get...


I've been shopping at the same Ace Hardware for well over 25
years. They know me by name and the owner has invited me to
his Christmas Party.... Of course, with what I've spent
there over the years, I probably have sent his kids to
college twice over...

John

In article , John Ammeter says...

I've been shopping at the same Ace Hardware for well over 25
years. They know me by name and the owner has invited me to
his Christmas Party.... Of course, with what I've spent
there over the years, I probably have sent his kids to
college twice over...

John
I've been waiting and waiting for some one to say what a "fender washer " is and
no one yet has given the right answer! I can't wait anymore...A "fender washer"
is the guy at the car wash that washes fenders,just like the tire washer ,door
washer ,window washer etc...They are specialists at the better car washes.
Besides this group is getting way to serious LOL!!!

See ya

Chuck (former fender washer) S

"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote in message ...
In article , John Ammeter says...

I've been shopping at the same Ace Hardware for well over 25
years. They know me by name and the owner has invited me to
his Christmas Party.... Of course, with what I've spent
there over the years, I probably have sent his kids to
college twice over...

John
I've been waiting and waiting for some one to say what a "fender washer " is and
no one yet has given the right answer! I can't wait anymore...A "fender washer"
is the guy at the car wash that washes fenders,just like the tire washer ,door
washer ,window washer etc...They are specialists at the better car washes.
Besides this group is getting way to serious LOL!!!

See ya

Chuck (former fender washer) S


I guess you missed it...


A little guy name Jose' who works down at my local car wash.
He's not tall enough to wash the top of the car, just the fenders.



carl mciver wrote:
"N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc)" N: dlzc1 D:cox wrote in
message news:rZWDd.23751$CH5.11854@fed1read01...
| Dear alanh_27:
|
| wrote in message
| ups.com...
| what is a fender washer? in which situation is it used?
|
| Just to add a little to John Kunkel's response...
| They also help distribute loading, when the bolted joint is into/includes
| sheet metal. Serves to stiffen up the bolted area.
|
| David A. Smith

Sort of. Usually not very strong, so they tend to sink a lot if you
torque them down to a reasonable amount. I've brazed a smaller washer on
top of a fender washer to stiffen one up, just stacking them only goes so
far. Actually, I needed it to remove and replace some bearings from the
front axle of my 4x4 truck. Had a 5/8" allthread going the length of the
axle and you couldn't get washers the right diameter with a 5/8" hole in it.
Lots of wrenching going on that day!

Blueskies wrote:
"VideoFlyer" wrote in message ...

Lowes and Home Dee-pot are *not* hardware stores. . . ;-)


That's true.....but they're the closest thing to a hardware store that I have
seen for many years. Where did all the GOOD hardware stores go.

I went into Menards a few weeks ago looking for a 3 inch V-belt pulley for an
air compressor. The person who waited on me had no idea what a pulley was.
He started showing me ratchet cable "pullers"....like a "come-along." Last
month I went into the same store and asked if they carried tap and die sets.
Again...the person who waited on me didn't have a clue as to what I was talking
about.
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I must sound like an old f*rt reminiscing about the good old days. I am a
YOUNG 47 year old male.

We have a really good Ace Hardware store here. I know they are struggling with Menards, The Home Depot, and Lowes within
4 miles. I use them every chance I get...

Ace is pretty good, for example they carry number and letter size
drill bits. I've never found that at Home Depot or Lowes, just the
fraction sizes from about 1/16 to 1".

The help you get from staff depends. At a Lowe's once I got good
help from an older guy, who seemed to have actually made stuff with
his hands and knew what I was talking about for moderately obscure
tools (hand chuck).

Not knowing what a tap and die set is? That's pretty bad, hopefully
you caught one dumb guy on a bad day with that one.

While we're ranting, I went to school for mechanical engineering. A
lot of the people seemed to be in it because their high school
guidance counselors told them they were good at math and science.
Smart people, just a different kind of smart. I got into it because
I thought it was neat the way stuff worked, but I had that in common
with less than half of the guys. I don't work in that field now
though, so it's just a pet theory of mine. Maybe Ron W. could weigh
in on this one?

[PS I'm a young 30, right now is the good old days]