Go around, NOW!!

Jim Burns wrote:

This past Sunday, while visiting Lawrenceville, GA (KLZU Class C just under
the outer ATL Class B), traffic was landing and departing 25. The
controller was busy, coordinating with Atlanta, handling clearance delivery,
ground, and tower simultaneously. He was broadcasting on all frequencies,
while receiving GC/CD and Tower separately. We started engines and prepared
to call for taxi instructions when I heard him blurt out "Cessna 1234 go
around NOW!!! YOU ARE LINED UP WITH RUNWAY 7, YOU WERE CLEARED TO LAND
RUNWAY 25, 25 IS THE ACTIVE RUNWAY, RIGHT TURN, GO AROUND NOW!!! I HAVE
LANDING TRAFFIC 25!!" (this guy was rightfully ****ed and obviously
rattled) Then he issued a right turn and a go around to traffic landing 25
and lit into the Cessna driver again. "What were you doing? why were you
landing runway 7, I cleared you #2 on 25" The Cessna pilot must have
responded with some excuse about a mistake and the controller came back
"mistakes are what get people in airplanes killed, next time you make sure
you know where you are! Now join a left downwind for Runway 25, that's
runway 25, traffic at your 3:00 opposite direction, a Piper on an upwind leg
for runway 25, I said runway 25!"


And if the pilot would have landed and caused a loss of separation the
FAA would have hammered that facility for only having one controller
working. After that reaming if it would have been me I would have had
my passenger say "kiss my ass".

"Newps" wrote in message
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And if the pilot would have landed and caused a loss of separation the
FAA would have hammered that facility for only having one controller
working. After that reaming if it would have been me I would have had
my passenger say "kiss my ass".

I've been wondering about the "second" controller. It's always been my
understanding that there is supposed to be 2 on duty, every controll tower
I've ever visited always had at least 2. Although at that particular time,
he only had 2 aircraft in the air, he was also talking to me and the fellow
behind me on the ground, a guy on clearance delivery, and a helicopter
inbound. I never heard the "second" controllers voice. Maybe #2 was taking
a #2?

Jim

Jim Burns wrote:



I've been wondering about the "second" controller. It's always been my
understanding that there is supposed to be 2 on duty, every controll tower
I've ever visited always had at least 2.

The number depends on how much traffic can be expected at a given time
of day and how many people are on duty. There's nothing worse for a
tower manager and his supervisors than to have something happen and the
investigation reveals controllers on the couch.


Although at that particular time,
he only had 2 aircraft in the air, he was also talking to me and the fellow
behind me on the ground, a guy on clearance delivery, and a helicopter
inbound. I never heard the "second" controllers voice. Maybe #2 was taking
a #2?

What time of day?

11:00am Sunday morning

"Newps" wrote in message
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Jim Burns wrote:



I've been wondering about the "second" controller. It's always been my
understanding that there is supposed to be 2 on duty, every controll
tower
I've ever visited always had at least 2.

The number depends on how much traffic can be expected at a given time
of day and how many people are on duty. There's nothing worse for a
tower manager and his supervisors than to have something happen and the
investigation reveals controllers on the couch.


Although at that particular time,
he only had 2 aircraft in the air, he was also talking to me and the
fellow
behind me on the ground, a guy on clearance delivery, and a helicopter
inbound. I never heard the "second" controllers voice. Maybe #2 was
taking
a #2?

What time of day?

Jim Burns wrote:

11:00am Sunday morning

There would have been at least 4 controllers on duty, possibly more.
Would have been a bad deal for the manager.

Speaking of controllers on duty, I learned during a recent tower visit that
there is only one controller on duty during the overnight at my local Class
C tower. Who handles tower duties when the controller has to do a "number
two"?

"Newps" wrote in message
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Jim Burns wrote:

11:00am Sunday morning

There would have been at least 4 controllers on duty, possibly more. Would
have been a bad deal for the manager.

"Brad Zeigler" wrote in message
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Speaking of controllers on duty, I learned during a recent tower visit
that
there is only one controller on duty during the overnight at my local
Class
C tower. Who handles tower duties when the controller has to do a "number
two"?

Approach? Or maybe they keep a handheld handy...

Brad Zeigler wrote:
Speaking of controllers on duty, I learned during a recent tower visit that
there is only one controller on duty during the overnight at my local Class
C tower. Who handles tower duties when the controller has to do a "number
two"?

Nobody, you just go.