Go around, NOW!!

I think the controller was waiting and expecting the IFR pilot to read back
the clearance. If the IFR pilot was unable to do so promptly, he should
have told the controller to "stand-by", he didn't say stand-by, but he
didn't immediately read back the clearance either. Again, I think several
people created that problem, I think that the pilot requesting taxi
instructions was unaware that CD was also on the same freq, and didn't have
a clue as to what the controller was giving the IFR pilot and that the IFR
pilot was expected to read back the clearance but hesitated. That's just
how it sounded to me at the time, I may be wrong.
Jim

"Jose" wrote in message
. com...
"Piper 1234, when you hear another pilot call for an IFR
clearance on Ground Control (GC and CD are the same freq at KLZU) and I
give
that pilot his clearance, it would be nice if you'd give him time to
write
it down, read it back, and get confirmation before you interrupt him
with
your taxi request!"

Why?

Often when I get an IFR clearance it is long and involved. The other
guy would have to wait (with his hobbs running) while I read it back and
get a confirmation. OTOH taxi instructions are generally pretty short
(taxi 26 via charlie) and wouldn't cause a problem should another
aircraft slip in. He could be on his way while I'm getting the charts
out.

r.a.s trimmed
Jose
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I think that the pilot requesting taxi
instructions was unaware that CD was also on the same freq

....which brings up another pet peeve - controllers who use both
frequencies to broadcast on. I'm on tower and hearing a lot of ground
radio traffic, I turn to ground and hear the same ground traffic, and
can't get a word in edgewise. So my motor's running at the threshold
while three airplanes are taxiied into place, two aircraft get IFR
clearances and a reroute... what's a pilot to do?

Jose
--
Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose wrote:
I think that the pilot requesting taxi
instructions was unaware that CD was also on the same freq


...which brings up another pet peeve - controllers who use both
frequencies to broadcast on. I'm on tower and hearing a lot of ground
radio traffic, I turn to ground and hear the same ground traffic, and
can't get a word in edgewise. So my motor's running at the threshold
while three airplanes are taxiied into place, two aircraft get IFR
clearances and a reroute... what's a pilot to do?

A controller using multiple freqs was a contributing factor in an ASRS report I
filed one time. Briefly, I called clearance, was read my clearance and given a
taxi clearance on the CD frequency, was told to follow another aircraft. I
continued to monitor the freq I was on (CD), didn't realize that the aircraft I
was following had switched to the tower freq. I followed the other aircraft
right out onto an active runway. I thought he was crossing that runway enroute
to another one, but he had actually been cleared for takeoff. Clearly an error
on my part, but IMO the use of broadcasting on multiple freqs was a contributing
factor.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:49:04 -0600, "Jim Burns"
wrote in
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the IFR pilot was expected to read back the clearance but hesitated.

While it is, of course, not mandatory for a pilot to read back his IFR
clearance, s/he should have at least acknowledged its receipt.