Owning vs. charter vs. airlines

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Alan Street" wrote in message
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$4 billion dollar deals are pretty rare.

Not any more! Wal-Mart alone does 100 of those each year.




Name one.

Mike
MU-2

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"Alan Street" wrote in message
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$4 billion dollar deals are pretty rare.

Not any more! Wal-Mart alone does 100 of those each year.




Name one.

Kimberly Clark, RubberMaid...

Those are suppliers, not "deals".

Mike
MU-2


"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Alan Street" wrote in message
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$4 billion dollar deals are pretty rare.

Not any more! Wal-Mart alone does 100 of those each year.




Name one.

Kimberly Clark, RubberMaid...

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Those are suppliers, not "deals".


And just how do they manage to "Supply" the company without working out a
deal?

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Those are suppliers, not "deals".


And just how do they manage to "Supply" the company without working out a
deal?


Walmart has never signed a single $4B deal AFAIK. Period. Furthermore I
doubt that *any* supplier has ever lost Walmart as a customer because they
could not arrive somewhere at a particular time.

Mike
MU-2

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Those are suppliers, not "deals".


And just how do they manage to "Supply" the company without working out
a
deal?


Walmart has never signed a single $4B deal AFAIK.

The two I mentioned. Wal-Mart was perhaps the first compnay to do long term
deals with their vendors, which is why they were able to get fabulous deals.

Period. Furthermore I
doubt that *any* supplier has ever lost Walmart as a customer because they
could not arrive somewhere at a particular time.

Read Walton's biography.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Walmart has never signed a single $4B deal AFAIK.

The two I mentioned. Wal-Mart was perhaps the first compnay to do long
term
deals with their vendors, which is why they were able to get fabulous
deals.

Period. Furthermore I
doubt that *any* supplier has ever lost Walmart as a customer because
they
could not arrive somewhere at a particular time.


I also forgot to mention all the corporate buyouts that run well over $4
billion.

Mike Rapoport wrote:
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Those are suppliers, not "deals".


And just how do they manage to "Supply" the company without working out a
deal?



Walmart has never signed a single $4B deal AFAIK. Period. Furthermore I
doubt that *any* supplier has ever lost Walmart as a customer because they
could not arrive somewhere at a particular time.


You know, it doesn't really make a damn bit of difference what deals
Walmart has or has not made, nor does it matter what any other company
has or has not done. The original point was that started this whole
waste of time was the fact that sometimes the "economical" choice winds
up losing you money. This is true whether or not the original example
has ever actually been represented in real life, and it's something that
every company either knows intuitively or soon learns in sorry detail.

Furthermore, in the engineering management world, when a request for
bids says that bids must be received by such-and-such time, then they
better be there at that time. Bids that aren't received on time are
simply not considered - there are usually plenty of bidders who do get
their bids in on time, and if not, the client will probably re-start
the bidding process.

Rich Lemert

Walmart has never signed a single $4B deal AFAIK. Period. Furthermore I
doubt that *any* supplier has ever lost Walmart as a customer because
they could not arrive somewhere at a particular time.


You know, it doesn't really make a damn bit of difference what deals
Walmart has or has not made, nor does it matter what any other company
has or has not done. The original point was that started this whole
waste of time was the fact that sometimes the "economical" choice winds
up losing you money. This is true whether or not the original example
has ever actually been represented in real life, and it's something that
every company either knows intuitively or soon learns in sorry detail.

Furthermore, in the engineering management world, when a request for
bids says that bids must be received by such-and-such time, then they
better be there at that time. Bids that aren't received on time are
simply not considered - there are usually plenty of bidders who do get
their bids in on time, and if not, the client will probably re-start
the bidding process.

Rich Lemert


You can often get a waiver if you show good faith effort, and if you show
that it could not have been changed. For instance, if Fed Ex put it on the
wrong truck.

Still, it doesn't help, and people who don't know how these things work just
really have not seen the pettiness and/or bureaucratic idiocy that goe on
these days. Often, you have a big ego type who is looking to get rid of
competitors so he can choose the vendor who best kisses his arse, or some
power starved purchasing maggot who loves his/her chance to veto the will of
the executive and sales people who all make 3 to 30 times what they make.

Don't know about $4 billion deals, but there are plenty of examples
where uncertainties in airline schedule has increased customer costs.
For instance, I used to be able to take an early flight and be on time
for a morning meeting in DC, and return the same day. I can't do that
anymore. Now I have leave on the previous evening and stay at a hotel. I
have, on many occasions, spent more time waiting in airports than it
would have taken me to drive that distance. It still does not make it
worthwhile to charter an airplane, but I can see how it might for
someone else. If your time is worth a few thousand $ per hour,
chartering might be well worth it.



"Mike Rapoport" wrote in
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
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Those are suppliers, not "deals".


And just how do they manage to "Supply" the company without working
out a deal?


Walmart has never signed a single $4B deal AFAIK. Period.
Furthermore I doubt that *any* supplier has ever lost Walmart as a
customer because they could not arrive somewhere at a particular time.

Mike
MU-2