Avgas in France has reached $7.50/gal !

tony roberts wrote in news:nospam-
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What did you find surprising?

Well - it was the first blatantly racist post I ever saw here.

Racist?

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Racist?

Makes you wonder how people so dunder-headed ever spawned men like
Bleriot...

That's not racist? One of us is missing something.

Tony



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Tony Roberts
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"tony roberts" wrote in message
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Racist?

Makes you wonder how people so dunder-headed ever spawned men like
Bleriot...

That's not racist? One of us is missing something.

I think technically, "racist" would be restricted to actual racially
oriented comments. "French" isn't so much a race, as a culture, community,
or nationality.

As for the comment itself, if you find it surprising, you haven't read much
of Jay's non-flying commentary, if any.

Offensive? Sure. Surprising? Not in the least.

Pete

Offensive? Sure. Surprising? Not in the least.

You're "offended" by my broadsiding the French?
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:JUz7e.14308$xL4.10941@attbi_s72...
Offensive? Sure. Surprising? Not in the least.

You're "offended" by my broadsiding the French?

How can it be that you are so surprised that I might take offense, and yet I
am not surprised at all that you might give it? I would have thought you'd
"know" me better by now.

I'm offended by any generalized denigration or unjustified stereotyping of
any broad group of people. You seem to do this a lot, and thus wind up
offending me on a fairly regular basis. You seem like a friendly enough
guy, which makes it just that much harder to understand how it is you seem
to have your head up your ass when it comes to acceptance and understanding
of opinions that differ from your own.

Your statement is certainly offensive to the French themselves, as well as
to anyone who keeps an open mind about how cultural, philosophical, or
political differences can exist without either group of people having those
differences being particularly more ignorant than the other.

Frankly, I think pretty much most people are stupid. It's anti-social of me
to have that opinion, I realize. In that respect, it might seem
hypocritical of me to be offended at you (essentially) calling another group
of people stupid. But, if the French are "dunderheads" as a group, they
certainly aren't unique in that respect. I'd say Americans are just as
dunderheaded as they are. Probably no more so, but certainly no less so.
The problem here isn't so much that you called the French stupid, but that
you seem to think we as Americans are somehow better than they are.

By the way, as long as we're talking about stupid people...I would much
rather interact with a stupid person who has a kind and generous heart, than
a smart person who constantly stereotypes and belittles those who are
different from him. Guess which kind of person you seem to me to be.

Pete

Peter Duniho wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:JUz7e.14308$xL4.10941@attbi_s72...

Offensive? Sure. Surprising? Not in the least.

You're "offended" by my broadsiding the French?


How can it be that you are so surprised that I might take offense, and yet I
am not surprised at all that you might give it? I would have thought you'd
"know" me better by now.

I'm offended by any generalized denigration or unjustified stereotyping of
any broad group of people. You seem to do this a lot, and thus wind up
offending me on a fairly regular basis. You seem like a friendly enough
guy, which makes it just that much harder to understand how it is you seem
to have your head up your ass when it comes to acceptance and understanding
of opinions that differ from your own.

Your statement is certainly offensive to the French themselves, as well as
to anyone who keeps an open mind about how cultural, philosophical, or
political differences can exist without either group of people having those
differences being particularly more ignorant than the other.

Frankly, I think pretty much most people are stupid. It's anti-social of me
to have that opinion, I realize. In that respect, it might seem
hypocritical of me to be offended at you (essentially) calling another group
of people stupid. But, if the French are "dunderheads" as a group, they
certainly aren't unique in that respect. I'd say Americans are just as
dunderheaded as they are. Probably no more so, but certainly no less so.
The problem here isn't so much that you called the French stupid, but that
you seem to think we as Americans are somehow better than they are.

By the way, as long as we're talking about stupid people...I would much
rather interact with a stupid person who has a kind and generous heart, than
a smart person who constantly stereotypes and belittles those who are
different from him. Guess which kind of person you seem to me to be.

Pete



Your message is offensive. MYOB.

"William W. Plummer" writes:

Peter Duniho wrote:
[snip]
Your message is offensive. MYOB.

Peter's message was thoughtful and on target, and while he sure
doesn't need me to defend him, I do anyway. Calling out a poster who
regularly stereotypes and disparages entire nations and continents is
very much all of our business.

William W. Plummer wrote:

MYOB.

That *is* his business, and the business of any considerate, thinking adult.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 19:44:08 -0400, "William W. Plummer"
wrote in
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Your message is offensive.

I didn't find it offensive.

What is offensive is your failure to trim included text.

Your statement is certainly offensive to the French themselves, as well as
to anyone who keeps an open mind about how cultural, philosophical, or
political differences can exist without either group of people having
those differences being particularly more ignorant than the other.

Ah, yes -- just more shades of gray. Never any "right" or "wrong", eh,
Pete?

It must be hard to live in a world where it's impossible to discern good
from bad.

Frankly, I think pretty much most people are stupid.

And you say *I'm* offensive? What hypocrisy!

By the way, as long as we're talking about stupid people...I would much
rather interact with a stupid person who has a kind and generous heart,
than a smart person who constantly stereotypes and belittles those who are
different from him. Guess which kind of person you seem to me to be.

And I would much prefer to interact with someone who can make a point
without resorting to personal attacks, rather than with a pompous,
sanctimonious old wind sock.

Guess which kind of person you seem to be?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"