building up hours

"Cockpit Colin" wrote in message
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Nah - we speak the international language of aviation - good old Queens
English

Queens, New York?

(high pitch mode on) Hey, mannnnn!!

On 14 Apr 2005 04:42:09 -0700, "Denny" wrote:

You just can't beat New Zealand
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Well yeah, but you have to learn a new language...

And if car gas is any indicator, (It was well over twice what we pay
when Joyce was there in Feb.) it'd be far more expensive than in the
states.

However they are trying to cripple GA with paranoia and charging non
nationals extra fees and going through extra security checks. Other
than the hassle I'd bet this is still the cheapest by far. Of course
if you fly in the mid west you can fly hours and not see the scenery
change.

If the scenery changes you know you have either hit the Rocky
Mountains, Smoky Mountains, Gulf of Mexico, or Canada.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

We pay around $1.10 per litre - doing a rough calc at the kiwi $ being 70 US
cents and 4 litres to a US gallon, we're paying the equivalent of $3.08 US
Dollars per US gallon - How does that compare to what you're paying?

We get a lot of English and Japanise students coming through - apparantly
we're about 1/3 the cost of what they pay over there (so they tell us).



"Roger" wrote in message
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On 14 Apr 2005 04:42:09 -0700, "Denny" wrote:

You just can't beat New Zealand
****************************************

Well yeah, but you have to learn a new language...

And if car gas is any indicator, (It was well over twice what we pay
when Joyce was there in Feb.) it'd be far more expensive than in the
states.

However they are trying to cripple GA with paranoia and charging non
nationals extra fees and going through extra security checks. Other
than the hassle I'd bet this is still the cheapest by far. Of course
if you fly in the mid west you can fly hours and not see the scenery
change.

If the scenery changes you know you have either hit the Rocky
Mountains, Smoky Mountains, Gulf of Mexico, or Canada.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 21:58:57 +1200, "Cockpit Colin"
wrote:

We pay around $1.10 per litre - doing a rough calc at the kiwi $ being 70 US
cents and 4 litres to a US gallon, we're paying the equivalent of $3.08 US
Dollars per US gallon - How does that compare to what you're paying?

When she was there in Feb. it was $5 US equivalent a gallon and we
were around $2.00 plus change. It spiked at $2.40 and is back to
$2.19.

Avgas varies widely, with the local price being $3.13 and a 20 mile
hop will bring you to $2.60. So, you are far closer than I thought.

Our local FBO has small tanks which are leased from the fuel company.
They wouldn't put in large ones as they said there wasn't enough
sales. Of course he has to pay a premium per gallon for less than a
full load and on top of that he has a flowage fee and taxes. The
other airport is county owned and operated. They have large tanks, no
extra tax or flowage fees.

Flying a bit farther to HTL they are even cheaper. Again, it's a
county owned system with large tanks.

OTOH go to some of the larger airports and it can be really expensive.
You can find major differences between FBOs on the same field.


We get a lot of English and Japanise students coming through - apparantly
we're about 1/3 the cost of what they pay over there (so they tell us).

When Joyce told me about the price of car gas I figured the other
prices would also be high and comparable to Europe.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com



"Roger" wrote in message
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On 14 Apr 2005 04:42:09 -0700, "Denny" wrote:

You just can't beat New Zealand
****************************************

Well yeah, but you have to learn a new language...

And if car gas is any indicator, (It was well over twice what we pay
when Joyce was there in Feb.) it'd be far more expensive than in the
states.

However they are trying to cripple GA with paranoia and charging non
nationals extra fees and going through extra security checks. Other
than the hassle I'd bet this is still the cheapest by far. Of course
if you fly in the mid west you can fly hours and not see the scenery
change.

If the scenery changes you know you have either hit the Rocky
Mountains, Smoky Mountains, Gulf of Mexico, or Canada.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

Aircraft hire charges are probably a better comparison - In NZ Dollars (inc
GST) for a PA38 or C152 you're looking at around $140.00 per hour max
(around USD 98) - you can get hour builders for, say, 20 per hour less, but
they tend to be a bit cruddy.

Personally, I've always made the effort to share the cost equally with 3
other friends - how does USD $28 per hour sound for a C172 - or USD $60 per
hour for a light twin sound

When she was there in Feb. it was $5 US equivalent a gallon and we
were around $2.00 plus change. It spiked at $2.40 and is back to
$2.19.

I'm not sure if I'm reading you right - you're saying that your wife saw
pricing in New Zealand equivalent to USD $5 per gallon? If so, that doesn't
add up - that works out at around $1.79 NZD per litre - hell, we even sell
it to the stock car boys (at a big profit) for $1.65. I was the one
responsible to setting hire rates on club aircraft during Feb - off memory
our buy rate dropped from 1.145 per litre to 1.105 - tax needs to be added
to that, but it's deductable for us, so no net effect. Multiply by 4 to get
US gallons and multiply by 0.7 for USD and that's the component cost of the
fuel in the hire rate.