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Avgas in France has reached $7.50/gal !



 
 
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Old April 14th 05, 09:00 PM
Jay Honeck
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If my government taxed gasoline so that it cost $7.50 per gallon, I would
be
standing on my representatives desk right now. And so would millions of
Americans.


No they won't!

Day after tomorrow is tax day and no one is even flinching.


I think you're wrong, Matt.

The Federal tax code has been carefully -- even diabolically -- written so
that the average Joe on the street has NO idea what he's actually paying in
taxes. By forcing employers to withhold the tax BEFORE the employee ever
sees the money, the Gubmint not only guarantees payment, it guarantees
acquiescence.

Bottom line: The government keeps the tax laws inscrutably complex quite on
purpose, lest they provoke an uprising.

Gas prices, on the other hand, are plain as day transparent, and people are
already ****ed as hell. The Bush administration is crapping their pants
right now, watching GW's approval rating plummet, primarily because of
rising gas prices.

If it hit $7.50 a gallon, you would see a revolution in America.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 14th 05, 09:33 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Gas prices, on the other hand, are plain as day transparent, and people
are already ****ed as hell.


No actually there not plain as day. When I pull up to the pump see that gas
is $2.479/gal I have no idea what part of that is tax.

In Arkansas the same goes for liquor tax. It is built into the advertised
price but not by law only by tradition. I owned a liquor store for a few
years and considered advertising the retail price and then adding the state
liquor and state, county and local sales taxes at the register.

My employees freaked out at the idea. They felt the customers would get
****ed and they were right.


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Old April 14th 05, 09:58 PM
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:AZz7e.14314$xL4.12721@attbi_s72...

Gas prices, on the other hand, are plain as day transparent, and people
are already ****ed as hell.



No actually there not plain as day. When I pull up to the pump see that gas
is $2.479/gal I have no idea what part of that is tax.


In many states, I'm in one, it is required by law to have the state and
federal tax amounts listed on each pump.
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Old April 17th 05, 08:58 AM
Jason Dodd
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Actually, In Iowa here, it says right on the pump what the individual
taxes per gallon are



Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:AZz7e.14314$xL4.12721@attbi_s72...

Gas prices, on the other hand, are plain as day transparent, and people
are already ****ed as hell.



No actually there not plain as day. When I pull up to the pump see that gas
is $2.479/gal I have no idea what part of that is tax.

In Arkansas the same goes for liquor tax. It is built into the advertised
price but not by law only by tradition. I owned a liquor store for a few
years and considered advertising the retail price and then adding the state
liquor and state, county and local sales taxes at the register.

My employees freaked out at the idea. They felt the customers would get
****ed and they were right.


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Old April 15th 05, 01:11 AM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:AZz7e.14314$xL4.12721@attbi_s72...

If it hit $7.50 a gallon, you would see a revolution in America.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Everyone was thinking there would be a revolution back in the 70's when it hit 60 cents a gallon! The only revolution I
saw was to watch the auto industry crumple and dollars go overseas to the imports...


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Old April 15th 05, 01:35 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Blueskies" wrote in message
...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message

news:AZz7e.14314$xL4.12721@attbi_s72...

If it hit $7.50 a gallon, you would see a revolution in America.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Everyone was thinking there would be a revolution back in the 70's when it

hit 60 cents a gallon! The only revolution I
saw was to watch the auto industry crumple and dollars go overseas to the

imports...

Yup, and they elected Jimmy Carter...and the rest, as they say, is history.





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Old April 15th 05, 04:03 AM
Jay Honeck
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If it hit $7.50 a gallon, you would see a revolution in America.

Everyone was thinking there would be a revolution back in the 70's when it
hit 60 cents a gallon! The only revolution I saw was to watch the auto
industry crumple and dollars go overseas to the imports...


Well, of course it all depends on how quickly the price were to hit $7.50
per gallon. If we're talking over the course of 30 years, obviously no one
will care (although they should.)

If we're talking over the course of 30 months, it would be a political
bloodbath.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 15th 05, 05:07 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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If it hit $7.50 a gallon, you would see a revolution in America.


Everyone was thinking there would be a revolution back in the 70's when

it
hit 60 cents a gallon! The only revolution I saw was to watch the auto
industry crumple and dollars go overseas to the imports...


Well, of course it all depends on how quickly the price were to hit $7.50
per gallon. If we're talking over the course of 30 years, obviously no

one
will care (although they should.)

If we're talking over the course of 30 months, it would be a political
bloodbath.


Not to mention the economic disaster. You could probably buy United for the
cost of a 172.

--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"




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Old April 15th 05, 01:17 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:AZz7e.14314$xL4.12721@attbi_s72...
If my government taxed gasoline so that it cost $7.50 per gallon, I

would
be
standing on my representatives desk right now. And so would millions

of
Americans.


No they won't!

Day after tomorrow is tax day and no one is even flinching.


I think you're wrong, Matt.

The Federal tax code has been carefully -- even diabolically -- written so
that the average Joe on the street has NO idea what he's actually paying

in
taxes.


You mean they don't look at line 45 of their 1040? :~)

Various pundits have been showing us "Tax Freedom Day" for as long as I
remember, but no one has jumped up on footstools, much less their
representatives desk.


By forcing employers to withhold the tax BEFORE the employee ever
sees the money, the Gubmint not only guarantees payment, it guarantees
acquiescence.


Bottom line: The government keeps the tax laws inscrutably complex quite

on
purpose, lest they provoke an uprising.


And the people (see poll I quoted) are willing to acquiese to it, rather
than lose their "goodies".

Gas prices, on the other hand, are plain as day transparent, and people

are
already ****ed as hell. The Bush administration is crapping their pants
right now, watching GW's approval rating plummet, primarily because of
rising gas prices.


John Kerry, Al Gore, Bill and Hillary Clinton have all stated, in public,
that Americans should be paying $4.50 to $5.00 a galllon and their support
is about 45% of the people.


If it hit $7.50 a gallon, you would see a revolution in America.


It depends on how soon it happened. Remember all those jokes about quotes
from the 1950's, that if things keep going they way there were, a house
would cost $50,000? Or a weeks groceries would be $25?

Remember the analogy of the frog in boiling water.




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Old April 15th 05, 01:33 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:AZz7e.14314$xL4.12721@attbi_s72...
If my government taxed gasoline so that it cost $7.50 per gallon, I

would
be
standing on my representatives desk right now. And so would millions

of
Americans.


Gas prices, on the other hand, are plain as day transparent, and people

are
already ****ed as hell. The Bush administration is crapping their pants
right now, watching GW's approval rating plummet, primarily because of
rising gas prices.

If it hit $7.50 a gallon, you would see a revolution in America.


And they would elect someone like John Kerry.

We'd have $7.50 gas AND rationing/mile-long-lines.

Remember the mid-70's?


 




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