Avgas in France has reached $7.50/gal !

It may be true that hospitals provide emergency care without first
asking for insurance. However, they will ask for it afterwards. How else
do you explain the fact that medical bills are a leading cause of
bankruptcies in this country?



"Jay Honeck" wrote in
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But I like to be brought to the ER after an accident ASAP and beeing
searched
for an insurance card _after_ the emergency treatment.

Martin, I don't know what kind of propaganda they've been feeding you
in Austria, but in America no one cares about who's paying for the
bills here until after the emergency medical services are rendered.

And, in fact, we *do* have nationalized health care in this country
for the indigent. Those who deny this fact clearly have no concept of
how our medical system works. (Mary's "other" job is doing
statistical computer analysis for a major health care provider, and
she spent 20 years as a Medical Technologist "in the trenches" drawing
blood, etc. She analyzes budgets, and gets to see, first hand, how
Medicare and other government programs pay 100% of health care costs
for anyone who walks in the door without insurance..)

Could the system be set up in a more efficient way? Hell, yes. But
it *is* functioning, and our health care *is* quite excellent.

In article ,
Andrew Sarangan wrote:

It may be true that hospitals provide emergency care without first
asking for insurance. However, they will ask for it afterwards. How else
do you explain the fact that medical bills are a leading cause of
bankruptcies in this country?

how about because medical care costs can be the single largest
expensive in someone's life?

--
Bob Noel
looking for a sig the lawyers will like

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
Andrew Sarangan wrote:

It may be true that hospitals provide emergency care without first
asking for insurance. However, they will ask for it afterwards. How else
do you explain the fact that medical bills are a leading cause of
bankruptcies in this country?

how about because medical care costs can be the single largest
expensive in someone's life?

And the fact that very few people carry catastrophic coverage any more,
figuring that $10 doctor visits are a better alternative than covering the
$250-500K situations.

Kinda like getting car insurance to cover oil changes, but limiting coverage
to $1000 and getting waxed when your $25,000 car gets totaled.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
Andrew Sarangan wrote:

It may be true that hospitals provide emergency care without first
asking for insurance. However, they will ask for it afterwards. How
else do you explain the fact that medical bills are a leading cause
of bankruptcies in this country?

how about because medical care costs can be the single largest
expensive in someone's life?

And the fact that very few people carry catastrophic coverage any
more, figuring that $10 doctor visits are a better alternative than
covering the $250-500K situations.

Kinda like getting car insurance to cover oil changes, but limiting
coverage to $1000 and getting waxed when your $25,000 car gets
totaled.




20% of employed Americans do not have health insurance. Many small
employers do not provide any kind of health coverage. Those of us
fortunate to be employed by large organizations may not appreciate this.
If those people buy insurance, the high premiums will drive them into
bankruptcy with greater certainty than taking a chance without
insurance. Either way they are doomed.

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

Either way they are doomed.

A risk? Yes.
Doomed? Gimme a break.

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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Kinda like getting car insurance to cover oil changes, but limiting
coverage to $1000 and getting waxed when your $25,000 car gets
totaled.




20% of employed Americans do not have health insurance.

But they have all sorts of other toys. I know a few myself. Of course, they
have cell phones that cost $60 or more a month, but not catastrophic health
insurance that costs around the same amount.


Many small
employers do not provide any kind of health coverage. Those of us
fortunate to be employed by large organizations may not appreciate this.

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?

If those people buy insurance, the high premiums will drive them into
bankruptcy with greater certainty than taking a chance without
insurance. Either way they are doomed.

Evidently, you have no clue about various forms of insurance and what it
costs. I won't even mention other aspects, as evidenced by the previous
paragraph, such as maturity.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in
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Kinda like getting car insurance to cover oil changes, but limiting
coverage to $1000 and getting waxed when your $25,000 car gets
totaled.




20% of employed Americans do not have health insurance.

But they have all sorts of other toys. I know a few myself. Of course,
they have cell phones that cost $60 or more a month, but not
catastrophic health insurance that costs around the same amount.


Many small
employers do not provide any kind of health coverage. Those of us
fortunate to be employed by large organizations may not appreciate
this.

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?


That is exactly kind of arrogance that the rest of the world dislikes about
us. Ask any nobel laureate, and they would admit that luck and good fortune
had as much to do with their success as hard work and intelligence. I am
quite well off in life myself, and I have been educated by the best, but I
have never been conceited enough to ignore my good fortunes.



If those people buy insurance, the high premiums will drive them into
bankruptcy with greater certainty than taking a chance without
insurance. Either way they are doomed.

Evidently, you have no clue about various forms of insurance and what
it costs. I won't even mention other aspects, as evidenced by the
previous paragraph, such as maturity.


I will let others decide your comment about maturity. I measure maturity by
how well one can contain himself when faced with opposing views, not by
their political opinions. YMMV

Matt Barrow wrote:

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?

Yep. According to the NY Times (the job market section of which I check every
Sunday), roughly 80% of all the professional positions never get advertised. The
people who land them get turned onto the position by their friends. The PC term
for this is "networking." Another way to put it is that you can land a decent
job if you're lucky.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

Yep. According to the NY Times (the job market section of which I check
every Sunday), roughly 80% of all the professional positions never get
advertised. The people who land them get turned onto the position by their
friends. The PC term for this is "networking." Another way to put it is
that you can land a decent job if you're lucky.

In my experience, networking has very little to do with luck.

Some people call it "schmoozing" -- but in real life, networking is a lot of
hard, sometimes crappy, work, and is often associated with glad-handing
people you would just as soon not deal with.

In this way it's a lot like "customer service" -- except that *you* are the
ultimate customer.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Fortunate? You get a job based on fortunes of life?

Yep. According to the NY Times (the job market section of which I check
every
Sunday), roughly 80% of all the professional positions never get
advertised. The
people who land them get turned onto the position by their friends. The PC
term
for this is "networking." Another way to put it is that you can land a
decent
job if you're lucky.

Or if you're tenacious and willing to work "outside the box". The rest
shower the job boards with resumes, probably 99% of which don't address a
specific position and are boilerplate.

Which traits would you look for if hiring someone?


Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO