Being asked to "verify direct XXX"

keep the DB current and there's certainly no reason at all they should
expect that I do).


no one except the PIC checks to make sure a plane's panel-mounted
database is current. ATC sure doesn't.

No kidding. My point was that, being that it's a _VFR_ GPS and that I
did _not_ file /G, I am under no regulatory requirement at all to keep
it current.


What you are saying is the equivalent of a /G airplane with out
of date databases. You are NOT legal to fly IFR with out of
date databases (there are exceptions but in general, the answer
is no).

Yes, there are exceptions for enroute ops, but that's another matter.

Not to be Mr. Police Officer or mean about it.....you said you are
newly minted IFR pilot when did you
take your written test? Did you study the Gleim. there are only
about 10 questions on GPS including a couple on the exact
thing you are asking about. I took mine not too long ago (my
checkride is coming up)

I took it it November and got a 98%. I am aware of the regs governing
IFR GPS use. No offense, but you missed my point.

What you are saying is the equivalent of a /G airplane with out
of date databases. You are NOT legal to fly IFR with out of
date databases (there are exceptions but in general, the answer
is no).

Not true. It depends on the individual GPS. RTFM.

(there are exceptions but in general, the answer is no).
Not true. It depends on the individual GPS. RTFM.

There are exceptions.....it depends......


ummm, we're saying the same thing, aren't we?
Agreed, RTFM always applies hence the indefinite statements.

Gerald

G. Sylvester wrote:

(there are exceptions but in general, the answer is no). Not true. It
depends on the individual GPS. RTFM.


There are exceptions.....it depends......


ummm, we're saying the same thing, aren't we?

There is no FAR that says the database must be current. The law is
whatever the manufacturer says it is in the manual. It's just the
opposite of what you said, most of the time an expired database is OK.
Especially for terminal and enroute ops. Only for approaches is it
pretty standard that the databse be current.

Newps wrote:


G. Sylvester wrote:

(there are exceptions but in general, the answer is no). Not true.
It depends on the individual GPS. RTFM.



There are exceptions.....it depends......


ummm, we're saying the same thing, aren't we?


There is no FAR that says the database must be current. The law is
whatever the manufacturer says it is in the manual.

To pick a nit: actually it's whatever it says in the Pilot's Operating Handbook
Supplement. The manufacturer supplies a boilerplate suggested wording for the
SPOH and *usually* that's what gets sent in to Oklahoma City for the approval,
which is approved (or not) for each individual aircraft. I don't think there's
anything preventing someone sending in different wording, and if it gets
approved, it's approved. I don't know whether that's actually ever been done.