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Old April 21st 05, 08:54 AM
Stefan
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George Patterson wrote:

What's insurance like over there?


At the moment, liability insurance requirements for aircraft up to 2
tons MTOW is around 3 Million dollars (approximately). This may or may
not change in the future, but I tend to think it won't. For heavier
airplanes, it is higher. This includes third party liability (if you
fall onto your neighbour's house, or more realistically, if you taxi
into your neighbour's plane) and passenger injury liability on private
flights. Passengers on commercial flights is another story.

This is about the same as for cars. In Europe, cars are required to have
liability insurance when they are moved on public roads. I think this is
a good idea.

To fully appreciate these numbers, you should bear in mind that
liability in Europe is just this, liability. It pays the expenses, and
that's it. Not 10 millions because your dog can't sleep anymore.

(Because I know absolutely nothing about the US legal system, I feel
sufficielntly qualified to express it like this: We don't have
dunderhead liability laws nor dunderhead juries who pay millions to any
dunderhead guy who burnes his mouth because nobody told him that coffee
usually tends to be hot.)

Stefan
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Old April 21st 05, 02:42 PM
Jay Honeck
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(Because I know absolutely nothing about the US legal system, I feel
sufficielntly qualified to express it like this: We don't have dunderhead
liability laws nor dunderhead juries who pay millions to any dunderhead
guy who burnes his mouth because nobody told him that coffee usually tends
to be hot.)


You'll get no argument from me on this one, Stefan.

We do, indeed, have the most dunderheaded legal system ever devised by man.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 22nd 05, 03:42 AM
Morgans
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

You'll get no argument from me on this one, Stefan.

We do, indeed, have the most dunderheaded legal system ever devised by

man.

Hmmm. Dunderheaded, BIG time, but worst of all? I don't know about that.
--
Jim in NC

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Old April 22nd 05, 06:54 AM
Peter Duniho
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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We do, indeed, have the most dunderheaded legal system ever devised by
man.


Yes, but are you willing to admit that makes YOU a dunderhead? That is,
will you agree with the French who express their disbelief that people so
dunderheaded ever spawned men like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams?


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Old April 22nd 05, 12:56 PM
Jay Honeck
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We do, indeed, have the most dunderheaded legal system ever devised by
man.


Yes, but are you willing to admit that makes YOU a dunderhead? That is,
will you agree with the French who express their disbelief that people so
dunderheaded ever spawned men like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams?


Sadly, I suppose, I must indeed share the blame for having done NOTHING to
fix our incredibly broken legal system.

I fear nothing short of revolution will clear the decks.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old April 22nd 05, 06:22 PM
Peter Duniho
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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Yes, but are you willing to admit that makes YOU a dunderhead? That is,
will you agree with the French who express their disbelief that people so
dunderheaded ever spawned men like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams?


Sadly, I suppose, I must indeed share the blame for having done NOTHING to
fix our incredibly broken legal system.


That's not really what I asked.

Probably the closest to a "yes" I'm going to get, I suppose. Which is, in
and of itself, an answer to my question. And just the one I expected.

Pete


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Old April 25th 05, 04:06 PM
Mike Rapoport
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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We do, indeed, have the most dunderheaded legal system ever devised by
man.


Yes, but are you willing to admit that makes YOU a dunderhead? That is,
will you agree with the French who express their disbelief that people so
dunderheaded ever spawned men like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams?


Sadly, I suppose, I must indeed share the blame for having done NOTHING to
fix our incredibly broken legal system.

I fear nothing short of revolution will clear the decks.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



To be fair, our legal system has always been the way it is now. Most of the
profits from the Comstock silver bonanza in the 1860's were consumed in
litigation over who owned the claims.

Mike
MU-2


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Old April 25th 05, 04:19 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
link.net...

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:cE5ae.8683$NU4.4645@attbi_s22...
We do, indeed, have the most dunderheaded legal system ever devised by
man.

Yes, but are you willing to admit that makes YOU a dunderhead? That

is,
will you agree with the French who express their disbelief that people

so
dunderheaded ever spawned men like Thomas Jefferson and John Adams?


Sadly, I suppose, I must indeed share the blame for having done NOTHING

to
fix our incredibly broken legal system.

I fear nothing short of revolution will clear the decks.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



To be fair, our legal system has always been the way it is now. Most of

the
profits from the Comstock silver bonanza in the 1860's were consumed in
litigation over who owned the claims.


Quite! The "system" is the same, but many more people have learned how to
manipulate and "game" it.


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Old April 22nd 05, 03:19 AM
George Patterson
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Stefan wrote:

At the moment, liability insurance requirements for aircraft up to 2
tons MTOW is around 3 Million dollars (approximately).


What I meant is -- how much does one have to pay for this insurance.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.
 




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