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There's a healthy light aircraft and glider industry here in Germany,
not just airbus. I think France has some too. and Diamond comes to mind .... an Austrian company (also with a production plant in Canada). Sorry, Martin. Here's more bad news for Europe and Austria: From AOPA's member news area: "And with that, Dries dropped a bomb. Diamond, he said, is establishing what it calls the Diamond China Project, a new manufacturing facility that will be built "about 300 kilometers east of Beijing." Site construction began one month ago, and it will be twice the size of Diamond's Austrian facility - and capable of employing 1,700 employees and building 600 aircraft a year. Eventually, all propeller-driven Diamond aircraft will be built at the Chinese plant, starting with DA40s. The first DA40 will roll out the so-called "Aviation City" factory doors by year-end." -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote Sorry, Martin. Here's more bad news for Europe and Austria: From AOPA's member news area: "And with that, Dries dropped a bomb. Diamond, he said, is establishing what it calls the Diamond China Project, a new manufacturing facility that will be built "about 300 kilometers east of Beijing." Site construction began one month ago, and it will be twice the size of Diamond's Austrian facility - and capable of employing 1,700 employees and building 600 aircraft a year. Eventually, all propeller-driven Diamond aircraft will be built at the Chinese plant, starting with DA40s. The first DA40 will roll out the so-called "Aviation City" factory doors by year-end." Good Lord help us all! I suppose they will be made with China steel. That is the softest, inconsistent crap have ever seen, let alone all the other made in China crap. -- Jim in NC |
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Good Lord help us all! I suppose they will be made with China steel.
That is the softest, inconsistent crap have ever seen, let alone all the other made in China crap. Now you've done it, Jim, you racist pig. How DARE you launch a wholesale assault on another culture? ;-) Hey, I wonder how many years (months?) it will be before GA in China over-takes what's left of GA in France? ducking! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote Now you've done it, Jim, you racist pig. How DARE you launch a wholesale assault on another culture? Chuckle ;-) Hey, I wonder how many years (months?) it will be before GA in China over-takes what's left of GA in France? ducking! You better! g Seriously, though, at least France has some degree of personal freedom left. The pity is, China is giving us (the US) exzacary what they want. Cheap, at all costs. I hope we wake up, before it is too late, and we have no manufacturing and quality in the US, but I fear we will not. I hope the consensus standards board, or if the Symphony (or any other made in China airplanes) are to be certified, I hope they tear it apart stem to stern, and check every part for hardness, fatigue, and any other test they can think of. I can only imagine airplanes falling from the sky, just like the public thinks is going to happen. One thing for certain; I will not be flying in a made in China airplane. I wonder how many others feel the same way. -- Jim in NC |
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In article , Morgans wrote:
I hope the consensus standards board, or if the Symphony (or any other made in China airplanes) are to be certified, I hope they tear it apart stem to stern, and check every part for hardness, fatigue, and any other test they can think of. I can only imagine airplanes falling from the sky, just like the public thinks is going to happen. One thing for certain; I will not be flying in a made in China airplane. I wonder how many others feel the same way. I don't feel this way at all. I have PIC time in Chinese made aircraft, and I've helped do the grunt work to annual one. The CJ6 I flew was (and is, I know the owner, and he's still flying it very frequently despite the big paycut he had to take going from software engineering to flying for the airlines!) a very well built plane. It is aerobatted with great frequency. It certainly seemed better made than the Russian equivalents (we tend to have the Russky ones here, Russia being closer than China). Not that the Russian ones are badly made, but quite a bit of Russian stuff seems to have rather poor finish. The CJ6 had been made with the attention to the fit and finish of all the parts of the airframe (and was even corrosion-proofed, which is something Cessna didn't do until they restarted production in the 1990s). -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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![]() "Morgans" wrote in message ... "Jay Honeck" wrote Now you've done it, Jim, you racist pig. How DARE you launch a wholesale assault on another culture? Chuckle ;-) Hey, I wonder how many years (months?) it will be before GA in China over-takes what's left of GA in France? ducking! You better! g Seriously, though, at least France has some degree of personal freedom left. The pity is, China is giving us (the US) exzacary what they want. Cheap, at all costs. I hope we wake up, before it is too late, and we have no manufacturing and quality in the US, but I fear we will not. I hope the consensus standards board, or if the Symphony (or any other made in China airplanes) are to be certified, I hope they tear it apart stem to stern, and check every part for hardness, fatigue, and any other test they can think of. I can only imagine airplanes falling from the sky, just like the public thinks is going to happen. One thing for certain; I will not be flying in a made in China airplane. I wonder how many others feel the same way. -- Jim in NC I have time in a Nanching (sp). It is an excellent airplane, solid airframe and bullet proof engine. I don't see a problem as long as they don't use Rotax engines. |
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In article , Dave Stadt wrote:
I have time in a Nanching (sp). It is an excellent airplane, solid airframe and bullet proof engine. I don't see a problem as long as they don't use Rotax engines. I think the new Diamonds (DA-40 etc) use either the diesel or a Lycoming O-360 (rated at 180hp). Rotax aren't a bad engine manufacturers - you've gotta remember a lot of their output is inherently less reliable 2-strokes. The small 4cyl 4stroke fitted to the original Katana I think got a bad rap mainly because there weren't many mainstream Lyco-Conti mechanics who were familiar with it. We don't have a similar problem with the Rotax 91* series engines here where they are more common (indeed, I've flown behind the turbocharged 914S, and it's a very nice engine making sea level power up to around 18000 feet, with automatic turbo and mixture control). -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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Morgans wrote:
I wonder how many others feel the same way. Not I. My tablesaw and a few of my other tools were made in China. I read one review that stated they found the table surface on the Chinese brand of saw to be flatter than any other brand (including Delta). When the Chinese feel it's important to do so, they produce an excellent quality product. George Patterson There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatoes. |
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George Patterson wrote:
Morgans wrote: I wonder how many others feel the same way. Not I. My tablesaw and a few of my other tools were made in China. I read one review that stated they found the table surface on the Chinese brand of saw to be flatter than any other brand (including Delta). When the Chinese feel it's important to do so, they produce an excellent quality product. Where are Delta table saws made these days? I know that all of the small drill presses are now made off-shore and it wouldn't surprise me if this is true of table saws as well. Matt |
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![]() "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:fs_9e.7050$c24.5136@attbi_s72... Good Lord help us all! I suppose they will be made with China steel. That is the softest, inconsistent crap have ever seen, let alone all the other made in China crap. Now you've done it, Jim, you racist pig. How DARE you launch a wholesale assault on another culture? ;-) Hey, I wonder how many years (months?) it will be before GA in China over-takes what's left of GA in France? More to the point will be how quickly GA in China will overtake Ga in the US |
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