Avgas in France has reached $7.50/gal !

On Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:42:53 +0100, Chris wrote:


More to the point will be how quickly GA in China will overtake Ga in the US


this will be a completely different GA then: flying presonal jets with high
tech equipment, not 20 or more years old spam cans with antique equipment.

#m
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"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Jay Honeck" wrote

Sorry, Martin. Here's more bad news for Europe and Austria:

From AOPA's member news area:
"And with that, Dries dropped a bomb. Diamond, he said, is establishing
what
it calls the Diamond China Project, a new manufacturing facility that
will
be built "about 300 kilometers east of Beijing." Site construction began
one
month ago, and it will be twice the size of Diamond's Austrian
facility -
and capable of employing 1,700 employees and building 600 aircraft a
year.
Eventually, all propeller-driven Diamond aircraft will be built at the
Chinese plant, starting with DA40s. The first DA40 will roll out the
so-called "Aviation City" factory doors by year-end."

Good Lord help us all! I suppose they will be made with China steel.
That
is the softest, inconsistent crap have ever seen, let alone all the other
made in China crap.
--
Jim in NC

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power. They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make what
Japan did look like childs play.

"Dave Stadt" wrote

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.
They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make what
Japan did look like childs play.

I know, but I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.

I CERTAINLY don't have to buy it.

Is this same thing happening in Europe?

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan finally
did?
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:

"Dave Stadt" wrote

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.

They

will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make what
Japan did look like childs play.


I know, but I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.

I CERTAINLY don't have to buy it.

Is this same thing happening in Europe?

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan finally
did?

I'm estimating 3-5 years.

Matt

"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

"Dave Stadt" wrote

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.

They

will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make
what
Japan did look like childs play.


I know, but I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.

I CERTAINLY don't have to buy it.

Is this same thing happening in Europe?

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan
finally
did?

I'm estimating 3-5 years.

Matt

In some cases, electronics for example, it is there already.

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Dave Stadt" wrote

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.
They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make
what
Japan did look like childs play.

I know, but I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.

I CERTAINLY don't have to buy it.

Is this same thing happening in Europe?

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan
finally
did?
--
Jim in NC

It isn't important whether anybody likes it or not, what is important is
realize that it is inevitable and change what and how we do things so we do
not compete where we are at a major disadvantage.

Mike
MU-2

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
link.net...

It isn't important whether anybody likes it or not, what is important is
realize that it is inevitable and change what and how we do things so we
do
not compete where we are at a major disadvantage.

America cannot compete on CHEAP, only on quality and bang-for-the-buck, but
that's another area that America has squandered.

Americans want to live like capitalists, but work like socialists. Sorry,
that dog don't hunt.


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Dave Stadt" wrote

Get used to it, China is the up and coming manufacturing world power.
They
will do what Japan did in the '60s and '70s at a scale that will make
what
Japan did look like childs play.

I know, but I DON'T HAVE TO LIKE IT.

I CERTAINLY don't have to buy it.

Is this same thing happening in Europe?

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan
finally
did?

It won't come up on the order that Japan's did because China still competes
98% on CHEAP, which is why so much of their labor, in the workers paradise,
is virtually slave labor. That's real slavery, not the crap the union and
leftist croak about.


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Morgans wrote:

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan finally
did?

About -15.

The question is, how long will it take for Americans to aquire enough
information about Chinese manufacturers to make informed decisions about their
products? The Chinese don't seem to have made any effort to brand their products.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:

How many years will it be until China's quality comes up, like Japan
finally
did?

About -15.

The question is, how long will it take for Americans to aquire enough
information about Chinese manufacturers to make informed decisions about
their products? The Chinese don't seem to have made any effort to brand
their products.

Why should they. Go to china and see for yourself whets happening there. The
cars on the roads are all western brands made in China, mainly in Shanghai
with the support of the western car companies, Ford, GM, VW etc.
They are soaking up the technology as they have just done with Rover.
The rate of progress is geometric not linear.

With their currency pegged to the dollar they are doing OK and with foreign
reserves conservatively valued at $600bn its easy to see why they do not
want to float the RMB.

Currently the are the second biggest consumer of gasoline and they have not
started yet, they use about a third of all the worlds concrete and about a
quarter of all the worlds steel.

and they can only get better and better and anyone who knows the Chinese,
will know they have a work ethic miles stronger than anything in the west.

and they despise the Japanese.