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do you really think because of your security improvements (aheeem) since
'then' there has been no further attack by plane?

Yes.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:4G5ae.8527$r53.1455@attbi_s21...
do you really think because of your security improvements (aheeem) since
'then' there has been no further attack by plane?

Yes.

Get a life, Jay, I really am astounded that you believe that.

do you really think because of your security improvements (aheeem)
since
'then' there has been no further attack by plane?

Yes.

Get a life, Jay, I really am astounded that you believe that.

I know I shouldn't ask this, but what,in your opinion,if NOT improved
security measures, has prevented another 9/11-style attack?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

do you really think because of your security improvements (aheeem)
since
'then' there has been no further attack by plane?

Yes.

Get a life, Jay, I really am astounded that you believe that.

I know I shouldn't ask this, but what,in your opinion,if NOT improved
security measures, has prevented another 9/11-style attack?

http://capmag.com/article.asp?ID=4189

Stupid Airport Security 2
by Walter Williams (April 12, 2005)

Hundreds of readers responded to last week's column about airport security.
These were letters from Americans who fit no terrorist profile -- airline
pilots, mothers traveling with children, disabled people, elderly and other
law-abiding Americans -- and yet were frisked, groped and hassled. The
Transportation Security Administration (TSA) behaves as if all passengers
and all baggage pose an equal security threat, and that's stupid, because
not nearly all passengers and baggage pose a security threat.

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Hundreds of readers responded to last week's column about airport
security.
These were letters from Americans who fit no terrorist profile -- airline
pilots, mothers traveling with children, disabled people, elderly and
other
law-abiding Americans -- and yet were frisked, groped and hassled. The
Transportation Security Administration (TSA) behaves as if all passengers
and all baggage pose an equal security threat, and that's stupid, because
not nearly all passengers and baggage pose a security threat.

This article seems to indicate that:

a) Airport security HAS been improved, since they are frisking everyone.
(They certainly never did that pre-9/11)

and

b) Political correctness, dictated by umpteen zillion stupid lawsuits over
the years, dictates that the TSA must frisk EVERYONE, even though any idiot
knows that a 93 year old woman in a wheelchair is probably not a security
risk. It's a sign of the times, not of the TSA.

How does this article support your point?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:8GUae.17388$NU4.3706@attbi_s22...
Hundreds of readers responded to last week's column about airport
security.
These were letters from Americans who fit no terrorist profile --
airline
pilots, mothers traveling with children, disabled people, elderly and
other
law-abiding Americans -- and yet were frisked, groped and hassled. The
Transportation Security Administration (TSA) behaves as if all
passengers
and all baggage pose an equal security threat, and that's stupid,
because
not nearly all passengers and baggage pose a security threat.

This article seems to indicate that:

a) Airport security HAS been improved, since they are frisking everyone.
(They certainly never did that pre-9/11)

and

b) Political correctness, dictated by umpteen zillion stupid lawsuits over
the years, dictates that the TSA must frisk EVERYONE, even though any
idiot
knows that a 93 year old woman in a wheelchair is probably not a security
risk. It's a sign of the times, not of the TSA.

How does this article support your point?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Like it or not Norm Mineta is the big reason profiling is not allowed. His
parents were sent to the Japanese camps in WWII and it is his way of getting
even.

Frisking everyone has little to no effect on security. There are dozens of
other ways to get what terrorist need on to airplanes.

The lawsuits could be prevented by a simple act of congress. I doubt there
ever were lawsuits but it is an easy scapegoat for the PC ninnies.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:8GUae.17388$NU4.3706@attbi_s22...
Hundreds of readers responded to last week's column about airport
security.
These were letters from Americans who fit no terrorist profile --
airline
pilots, mothers traveling with children, disabled people, elderly and
other
law-abiding Americans -- and yet were frisked, groped and hassled. The
Transportation Security Administration (TSA) behaves as if all
passengers
and all baggage pose an equal security threat, and that's stupid,
because
not nearly all passengers and baggage pose a security threat.

This article seems to indicate that:

a) Airport security HAS been improved, since they are frisking everyone.
(They certainly never did that pre-9/11)

and

b) Political correctness, dictated by umpteen zillion stupid lawsuits over
the years, dictates that the TSA must frisk EVERYONE, even though any
idiot
knows that a 93 year old woman in a wheelchair is probably not a security
risk. It's a sign of the times, not of the TSA.

How does this article support your point?

Think of the Magginot line.

In article 8GUae.17388$NU4.3706@attbi_s22, Jay Honeck wrote:
b) Political correctness, dictated by umpteen zillion stupid lawsuits over
the years, dictates that the TSA must frisk EVERYONE, even though any idiot
knows that a 93 year old woman in a wheelchair is probably not a security
risk. It's a sign of the times, not of the TSA.

Actually - if you want your security to work then you *cannot* profile.
It's not a case of political correctness. If you only frisk brown
people, soon the terrorists will find non-brown extremists to perpetrate
attacks. If you only frisk people who bought last minute one way tickets
over the Internet, the terrorists will start gettin their tickets from a
traditional travel agents, pay by cheque and buy a return ticket.

Even so, the airport security the US has now is window-dressing - the
only things that have actually increased security is a locked flight
deck door policy and the fact that the passengers will now take out any
would-be hijacker instead of going quietly (witness what happened with
the attempted shoe bombing).

In Britain, our airport security isn't anywhere near as onerous and
intrusive, yet we've not had any attacks-by-airliner since Sept.11, and
Britain is hated every bit as much by the terrorists. (We can even carry
nail clippers and knitting needles on airliners now, yay us).

--
Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net
Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net
"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

do you really think because of your security improvements (aheeem)
since
'then' there has been no further attack by plane?

Yes.

Get a life, Jay, I really am astounded that you believe that.

I know I shouldn't ask this, but what,in your opinion,if NOT improved
security measures, has prevented another 9/11-style attack?

What, in your opinion, if NOT improved security measures, has prevented any
pink elephants from boarding commercial airline flights?

Ignoring, for a moment, that the latest GAO report indicates that post-9/11
security is not in fact improved, even if it had been improved, the lack of
any further attacks doesn't in any way suggest that it's the security itself
responsible for the lack of further attacks.

Pete

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

do you really think because of your security improvements (aheeem)
since
'then' there has been no further attack by plane?

Yes.

Get a life, Jay, I really am astounded that you believe that.

I know I shouldn't ask this, but what,in your opinion,if NOT improved
security measures, has prevented another 9/11-style attack?

The terrorists do not need to do another 9/11 style attack. They have
achieved their end. They have caused more difficulties for all Americans
than the 4000 killed in 9/11.

Life will never be the same again - that's a result.