Avgas in France has reached $7.50/gal !

Ahem...120,000 is not now and never will be a "metro area".

Think again. In Iowa, and other Midwest and plains states, that is
a
downright huge metro area. Such as are the wide open spaces in the
US.
--
The feds consider a "Metro Area" to be 1 million population or more
and have
since the 60's I think.

In the Midwest, where towns can be separated by vast distances, a
metropolitan area is quite different from the traditional "big city"
metro area. Yet, because of the distances involved, you will often
find all of the things normally associated with larger cities in a
(relatively) small group of communities.

I'm always surprised to find communities like Iowa City (or places like
Rapid City, SD and Lincoln NE, to name a couple of others) that have
amenities that you just would not expect to find outside major metro
areas.

Iowa City's "hook" is our 600 pound gorilla, the University of Iowa --
but many other small Midwest communities have "Big City fare" simply
because of their isolation. They thus have a "Big City feel" combined
with all the advantages of small town life -- a perfect combination,
IMHO.

I often wonder how the internet will affect this phenomenon. Now that
it is possible to have "next-day-air" delivery virtually anywhere, and
you can order anything instantly off the internet, how long will it be
until people REALLY disperse all over the countryside, completely
dispensing with the rudiments of what we consider "community"...?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 23 Apr 2005 19:21:13 -0700, "Jay Honeck"
wrote:

I often wonder how the internet will affect this phenomenon. Now that
it is possible to have "next-day-air" delivery virtually anywhere, and
you can order anything instantly off the internet, how long will it be
until people REALLY disperse all over the countryside, completely
dispensing with the rudiments of what we consider "community"...?

Well, speaking in terms of states (rather than dispersal within
states), OpinionJournal
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110006596 has a chart of
projected population growth by 2030.

The fastest-growing states by 2030 are shown as Nevada, Arizona,
Florida, Texas, Utah, Idaho, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington, and
Oregon.

Except for New Hampshire (15th: ugh!), the Northeast is essentially
irrelevant.

The top ten states in 2030 are shown are California, Texas, Florida,
New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, North Carolina (!), Georgia, Ohio,
and Arizona.

Florida displacing New York at 3! North Carolina displacing Ohio at 7!

Don't give all the credit to the internet. UPS has a lot to do with
it, too



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Cub Driver wrote:

The fastest-growing states by 2030 are shown as Nevada, Arizona,
Florida, Texas, Utah, Idaho, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington, and
Oregon.

Arizona, North Carolina, and Florida get most of their growth these days from
retirees. I suppose most of the rest are mainly attracting businesses? Georgia
certainly is.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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Cub Driver wrote:

The fastest-growing states by 2030 are shown as Nevada, Arizona,
Florida, Texas, Utah, Idaho, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington, and
Oregon.

Arizona, North Carolina, and Florida get most of their growth these days
from
retirees. I suppose most of the rest are mainly attracting businesses?
Georgia
certainly is.

Where did you get that info? NC, for one, is growing leaps and bounds in
the research triangle area, which is Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill. The
ocean, up and down the coast is booming, for tourism and the services
required to service the tourists.

No doubt, there are some retirees settling along the coast, but that is not
the largest percentage of property use; rather rentals and time shares.

Look at the growth of the Charlotte area. They are building a couple new
large high schools, every year. Retirees don't have that many kids. ;-)
--
Jim in NC

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:ZLRae.3528$WX.26@trndny01...
Cub Driver wrote:

The fastest-growing states by 2030 are shown as Nevada, Arizona,
Florida, Texas, Utah, Idaho, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington, and
Oregon.

Arizona, North Carolina, and Florida get most of their growth these days
from
retirees.

Arizona's retiree parade (snow birds) ended about five years ago.

According to my in-laws in Scottsdale (year-round residents), Arizona priced
themselves out of the retiree market except for the Yuma area.

Arizona has been picking up a lot of the businesses pulling out of
California, but that prize is mainly going to Nevada.

I suppose most of the rest are mainly attracting businesses? Georgia
certainly is.

What's the attraction? I take it that's mainly the Atlanta area?

Matt Barrow wrote:

What's the attraction? I take it that's mainly the Atlanta area?

Last I heard, yes -- mainly Atlanta.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

What's the attraction? I take it that's mainly the Atlanta area?

Last I heard, yes -- mainly Atlanta.

Actually, I've been pleasantly surprised every time I've been to Georgia.
Nice people and nice weather (well, except in July/August).
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:do6ce.30958$NU4.6729@attbi_s22...
What's the attraction? I take it that's mainly the Atlanta area?

Last I heard, yes -- mainly Atlanta.

Actually, I've been pleasantly surprised every time I've been to Georgia.
Nice people and nice weather (well, except in July/August).
--

They were very nice! They gave directions like you lived there (all the
landmarks were rather obscure to an outsider) and you were one of their own.


--
Matt
---------------------
Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Jay Honeck wrote:

Nice people and nice weather (well, except in July/August).

Yep. There've been many timnes I've wished I never left Atlanta.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

"Cub Driver" wrote in message
...

The fastest-growing states by 2030 are shown as Nevada, Arizona,
Florida, Texas, Utah, Idaho, North Carolina, Georgia, Washington, and
Oregon.

Except for New Hampshire (15th: ugh!), the Northeast is essentially
irrelevant.

The top ten states in 2030 are shown are California, Texas, Florida,
New York, Illinois, Pennsylvania, North Carolina (!), Georgia, Ohio,
and Arizona.

Florida displacing New York at 3! North Carolina displacing Ohio at 7!

Don't give all the credit to the internet. UPS has a lot to do with
it, too

I knew their drivers could be promiscuous, but I had no idea....