C-172 down at HPN - 2 fatalities

"Peter R." wrote in message
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George wrote:

Westchester is a controlled field, yet the
reporter states that the "pilot had no verbal contact with the air
tower"?

Technically, this might be correct. Perhaps approach had yet to hand
off the aircraft to the tower.

Conditions were IMC, yet "their arrival was not scheduled"?

Again, technically, this might be considered correct, too. The
aircraft was operating under part 91, not part 121.

Its possible those facts were relayed to the reporter, who then added
them to the article out of context.

--
Peter


And gets information he doesn't understand he should follow up on it, not
just stick it in the story.

Its possible those facts were relayed to the reporter, who then added
them to the article out of context.

--
Peter


And gets information he doesn't understand he should follow up on it, not
just stick it in the story.

I've never seen a reporter do that... they think they have it right the
first time and are the most stupid people I've seen... seeming to be
experts at things they no nothing about... they don't even know enough to
ask the question..

but that's JMHO
BT

BTIZ wrote:

I've never seen a reporter do that... they think they have it right the
first time and are the most stupid people I've seen...

The few with which I've dealt haven't seemed to be stupid -- they're just in too
much of a hurry to double-check things. Gotta make that deadline.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

George, this is not about common sense, this is about the belief that only
you have common sense and the rest of the world are idiots. The sooner you
get that, the sooner you will stop posting these reasonable posts and get
with the flaming.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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BTIZ wrote:

I've never seen a reporter do that... they think they have it right the
first time and are the most stupid people I've seen...

The few with which I've dealt haven't seemed to be stupid -- they're just
in too much of a hurry to double-check things. Gotta make that deadline.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

On 4/25/05 10:47 PM, in article ,
"Ed" spewed:

George, this is not about common sense, this is about the belief that only
you have common sense and the rest of the world are idiots. The sooner you
get that, the sooner you will stop posting these reasonable posts and get
with the flaming.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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BTIZ wrote:

I've never seen a reporter do that... they think they have it right the
first time and are the most stupid people I've seen...

The few with which I've dealt haven't seemed to be stupid -- they're just
in too much of a hurry to double-check things. Gotta make that deadline.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.


I work at a newspaper. About half of the reporters are concrete stupid. We
had one last year doing an interview with a Navy vet and she asked him what
Pearl Harbor was. Those of us that heard her ask were stunned when he
continued with the interview instead of hanging up on her dumb ass.
Even when we did a story on the flight school I trained at, and I pointed
out a number of glaring errors long before deadline, they were not fixed.
Among other things, it "sounded better" to say "license to fly" when the
student had only soloed.
--
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They're stupid AND lazy. I was in P.R. for about 10 years and reporters just
ate out of my hand. I basically did the work for them on the facts and my
clients paid for it. My biggest successes were stories that I wrote but were
printed whole cloth by the paper. I once was duped by a client. I sent out
press releases, press kits and got the nets, locals, cable and radio to
cover an event based upon a wrong premise. I got ink, video and radio for my
client like there was no tomorrow. Not one of them fact-checked.

The saying used to be: those who can't, teach. Now it's: those who can't,
report.





"Wizard of Draws" wrote in
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On 4/25/05 10:47 PM, in article
,
"Ed" spewed:

George, this is not about common sense, this is about the belief that
only
you have common sense and the rest of the world are idiots. The sooner
you
get that, the sooner you will stop posting these reasonable posts and get
with the flaming.

"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:Pmhbe.4701$WX.776@trndny01...
BTIZ wrote:

I've never seen a reporter do that... they think they have it right the
first time and are the most stupid people I've seen...

The few with which I've dealt haven't seemed to be stupid -- they're
just
in too much of a hurry to double-check things. Gotta make that deadline.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to
the
mashed potatoes.


I work at a newspaper. About half of the reporters are concrete stupid. We
had one last year doing an interview with a Navy vet and she asked him
what
Pearl Harbor was. Those of us that heard her ask were stunned when he
continued with the interview instead of hanging up on her dumb ass.
Even when we did a story on the flight school I trained at, and I pointed
out a number of glaring errors long before deadline, they were not fixed.
Among other things, it "sounded better" to say "license to fly" when the
student had only soloed.
--
Jeff 'The Wizard of Draws' Bucchino

Cartoons with a Touch of Magic�
http://www.wizardofdraws.com

More Cartoons with a Touch of Magic�
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"Wizard of Draws" wrote in
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I work at a newspaper. About half of the reporters are concrete stupid. We
had one last year doing an interview with a Navy vet and she asked him
what
Pearl Harbor was.



That's where Germany attacked the US and drew us into the Spanish-American
War.

Everyone know that!

"Matt Barrow"
That's where Germany attacked the US and drew us into the Spanish-American
War.


"Remember the...starts with "M" ...Merrimack"

Half the kids in my 1977 High School history class drew a line (east to
west) across Asia, Europe, the Atlantic Ocean, North America, and out into
the Pacific Ocean to Hawaii - to show the route Japan used to attack Pearl
Harbor. Some went around Africa and South America because they knew it had
something to do with aircraft carriers.

Yup, flat map - US on the left, Japan on the right.


Montblack

"Wizard of Draws" wrote in
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Even when we did a story on the flight school I trained at, and I pointed
out a number of glaring errors long before deadline, they were not fixed.
Among other things, it "sounded better" to say "license to fly" when the
student had only soloed.

Sorry, I don't see what's inaccurate there. A solo endorsement *is* a
license to fly (but not with passengers). Why not refer to it as such?

--Gary

On 4/27/05 8:51 PM, in article , "Gary
Drescher" spewed:

"Wizard of Draws" wrote in
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Even when we did a story on the flight school I trained at, and I pointed
out a number of glaring errors long before deadline, they were not fixed.
Among other things, it "sounded better" to say "license to fly" when the
student had only soloed.

Sorry, I don't see what's inaccurate there. A solo endorsement *is* a
license to fly (but not with passengers). Why not refer to it as such?

--Gary


The article was written as if his training was over and he had been given
his certificate. I won't get into a semantic argument about license v.
certificate, but the article taken as a whole was entirely misleading and
inaccurate. Keeping in mind that newspapers become historical documents, if
a reporter can't get a story right, it shouldn't be written.

In light of the fact that I am a pilot and everyone in the office knows it,
I don't think it would have been too much to expect a reporter to just cross
the room and have me proofread it (or even get a bit of background on the
training syllabus from someone who's been through it) before going to press.
But apparently it was.
--
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