Rolling a Non Aerobat 150

On Mon, 02 May 2005 12:56:55 GMT, Jose
wrote in ::

Do you have some data to support that, or is that opinion empirically
derived? :-)

"empirical" means "by experiment" (data). As opposed to "by theory"
(mathematics and modelling)

While what you assert is true, given Merriam-Webster's definition:

Main Entry:empirical
Pronunciation:-i-k*l
Variant:also empiric \-ik\
Function:adjective
Date:1569

1 : originating in or based on observation or experience
*empirical data*
2 : relying on experience or observation alone often without due
regard for system and theory
3 : capable of being verified or disproved by observation or
experiment *empirical laws*
4 : of or relating to empiricism
–empirically \-i-k(*-)l*\ adverb

I wonder why you felt the need to define the meaning of the word.
What was your point?

Do you have some data to support that, or is that opinion empirically
derived? :-)

"empirical" means "by experiment" (data). As opposed to "by theory"
(mathematics and modelling)

...given [webster's definition, consistant with my statement]
I wonder why you felt the need to define the meaning of the word.
What was your point?

It was a UU. ("usenet urge"). The original quote seemed to misuse the
word, pitting "empirical" against "having some data", when they mean the
same thing.

The usage I would expect would be something like "is there any theory
behind this, or is that opinion empirically derived?" or "do you have
some data to support that, or is this merely a theoretically based opinion?"

Jose
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On Mon, 02 May 2005 13:20:06 GMT, Jose
wrote in ::

Do you have some data to support that, or is that opinion empirically
derived? :-)

"empirical" means "by experiment" (data). As opposed to "by theory"
(mathematics and modelling)

...given [webster's definition, consistant with my statement]
I wonder why you felt the need to define the meaning of the word.
What was your point?

It was a UU. ("usenet urge"). The original quote seemed to misuse the
word, pitting "empirical" against "having some data", when they mean the
same thing.

The usage I would expect would be something like "is there any theory
behind this, or is that opinion empirically derived?" or "do you have
some data to support that, or is this merely a theoretically based opinion?"

Jose


Oh, for a minute there, I thought you were attempting to define all
data as empirical.

Oh, for a minute there, I thought you were attempting to define all
data as empirical.

No. Only high altitude pressurized data.

Jose
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