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Jay Honeck wrote:
Quite frankly, I just don't understand many Harley riders. I've ridden
motorcycles for 28 years, and have NEVER felt the urge to drill holes in my
mufflers -- yet, for some odd reason, Harley owners feel compelled to make
themselves as annoying as possible.

The reasoning they use is louder=safer. We all know that car drivers tend
to ignore motorcyclists. If your bike is loud, it give the drivers
another clue that you might be in their blind spot.


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The reasoning they use is louder=safer. We all know that car drivers tend
to ignore motorcyclists. If your bike is loud, it give the drivers
another clue that you might be in their blind spot.

That's pretty funny. Especially given the riding prowess of the Harley
riders I've had the misfortune of riding with...

(Now before anyone blasts me, I realize that most Harley riders are safe,
and nowadays are probably my dentist. I rode with these guys in the 1980s,
and -- aside from stopping at every Pabst sign for 300 miles, and
deliberately cutting off auto traffic on a 4-lane highway -- they were great
riders...)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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Jay Honeck wrote:
That's pretty funny. Especially given the riding prowess of the Harley
riders I've had the misfortune of riding with...

It's no funnier than riding a Goldwing.


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Jay Masino wrote:

Jay Honeck wrote:
Quite frankly, I just don't understand many Harley riders. I've ridden
motorcycles for 28 years, and have NEVER felt the urge to drill holes in
my mufflers -- yet, for some odd reason, Harley owners feel compelled to
make themselves as annoying as possible.

I don't get it either. The really ironic part is that most of these guys are
well to do types (that's about the only kind that can afford Harleys
nowadays), hardly "rebels". A friends neighbor is a wealthy business owner
with a Ferrari and a Mercedes SL in his 6 car garage, yet the bike has
straight pipes.

The reasoning they use is louder=safer. We all know that car drivers tend
to ignore motorcyclists. If your bike is loud, it give the drivers
another clue that you might be in their blind spot.



Then we should all take the mufflers off our cars too, after all, I want to
be safer too.....

If they're not paying attention then noise isn't going to matter. Around
here anyway there are so many bikes the noise doesn't make them stand out.

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Frank....H

Frank wrote:
I don't get it either. The really ironic part is that most of these guys are
well to do types (that's about the only kind that can afford Harleys
nowadays), hardly "rebels". A friends neighbor is a wealthy business owner
with a Ferrari and a Mercedes SL in his 6 car garage, yet the bike has
straight pipes.

"Rebels" aren't defined by their salaries.


The reasoning they use is louder=safer. We all know that car drivers tend
to ignore motorcyclists. If your bike is loud, it give the drivers
another clue that you might be in their blind spot.

Then we should all take the mufflers off our cars too, after all, I want to
be safer too.....

That's ridiculous. There's a significant difference between car/car
interaction vs motorcycle/car. Motorcycles are regularly ignored by car
drivers. Everyone who's ridden any amount of time has had cars cut in
front of them or change lanes into the motorcycle's path.

If they're not paying attention then noise isn't going to matter. Around
here anyway there are so many bikes the noise doesn't make them stand out.

You would think that would be the case, but in practice, every additional
thing you can do to make the cars notice you makes you safer.



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"Jay Masino" wrote

That's ridiculous. There's a significant difference between car/car
interaction vs motorcycle/car. Motorcycles are regularly ignored by car
drivers. Everyone who's ridden any amount of time has had cars cut in
front of them or change lanes into the motorcycle's path.


You all are missing the point. They want to be a thorn in your side. They
want to **** you off; to get a reaction. They often even point them up, so
they blare right in your face.

Most of all, they want attention. Everyone should see and hear them, and
their long hair, and tattoos.
--
Jim in NC

Jay Masino wrote:

Frank wrote:
I don't get it either. The really ironic part is that most of these guys
are well to do types (that's about the only kind that can afford Harleys
nowadays), hardly "rebels". A friends neighbor is a wealthy business
owner with a Ferrari and a Mercedes SL in his 6 car garage, yet the bike
has straight pipes.

"Rebels" aren't defined by their salaries.

Certainly not. But it is hard to take seriously a guy who's all "corporate"
Monday thru Friday and dons biker's garb on the weekends. "Big hat, no
cattle" I believe is the expression.


The reasoning they use is louder=safer. We all know that car drivers
tend
to ignore motorcyclists. If your bike is loud, it give the drivers
another clue that you might be in their blind spot.

Then we should all take the mufflers off our cars too, after all, I want
to be safer too.....

That's ridiculous. There's a significant difference between car/car
interaction vs motorcycle/car. Motorcycles are regularly ignored by car
drivers. Everyone who's ridden any amount of time has had cars cut in
front of them or change lanes into the motorcycle's path.

I have spent considerable time on a bike. I find I get cut off just as often
in the car as the bike.

It's a bit surprised to learn that anyone really takes the "loud pipes save
lives" thing seriously. It's a joke.

If you actually believe it to be true then you'll have to explain why the
straight pipe crowd is pretty much limited to Harleys. Surely the riders of
other makes would want to be equally "safe".

All my toys (bike, plane, sporty car) are street legal, and that's all I ask
of anyone else. There are noise limits for a reason. If the Harley crowd
want exemptions based on "safety" they should obtain them legally,
hopefully by supplying supporting evidence.

Loud pipes annoy neighbors.

If they're not paying attention then noise isn't going to matter. Around
here anyway there are so many bikes the noise doesn't make them stand
out.

You would think that would be the case, but in practice, every additional
thing you can do to make the cars notice you makes you safer.

How about really bright, flashing lights? Air horns going off every 5
seconds or so? Strobe lights?

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Frank....H