Finish lines

"BB" wrote in message
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Now put him on his first marginal final glide where he has not yet
developed the complex energy picture and blows the finish , stalls and
spins in- fatally.
Do you not think this person who signed this pilot off as trained is
going to be at serious risk of lawsuit from wife or others?
Are you volunteering to take on this duty?
UH


And the lawyer, looking at the $1m contest liability insurance, will
surely ask the contest organizers why they chose to require a 50 foot
finish line when a 500 foot or higher finish was an available option
in the rules. All the fun arguments we have here will evaporate in
court with one crash in front of them and a long list of similar
crashes in the NTSB database.

Let us hope it won't happen, and let us hope nobody files a suit when
it does. (Keep in mind it's not just spouses and children who might
sue. Life insurance companies can sue, and pieces of glider can do a
lot of damage to unsuspecting bystanders on the ground) But if it does
happen the contest organizers are exposed to a significant liability.

BB

What about the waivers I sign before I enter the contest?
Are you saying they have no standing.
Udo

What about the waivers I sign before I enter the contest?
Are you saying they have no standing.
Udo

In a word, no. Those waivers slow down suits by about 5 minutes,
especially if they can prove some sort of negligence. Your waiver also
says nothing about contest organizer's liability to third parties. If
you crash and do damage to someone on the ground, they can sue contest
organizers, and your waiver of liability to you has nothing to do with
it. For example, consider the glider that ran into a spectator at
tonopah at takeoff. The spectator can sue the contest organizers and
the SSA.

BB

BB wrote:

What about the waivers I sign before I enter the contest?
Are you saying they have no standing.
Udo

In a word, no. Those waivers slow down suits by about 5 minutes,
especially if they can prove some sort of negligence. Your waiver also
says nothing about contest organizer's liability to third parties. If
you crash and do damage to someone on the ground, they can sue contest
organizers, and your waiver of liability to you has nothing to do with
it. For example, consider the glider that ran into a spectator at
tonopah at takeoff. The spectator can sue the contest organizers and
the SSA.

BB

My club was recently looking at 'meet' insurance as described by Costello to
cover neglience that might not be otherwise covered by our existing
policies, including premises liability coverage as we own our airfield. If
hosting a contest 'meet' insurance is available for around $800 (around
$500 if SSA sanctioned).

Frank Whiteley

F.L. Whiteley wrote:
BB wrote:

What about the waivers I sign before I enter the contest?
Are you saying they have no standing.
Udo

In a word, no. Those waivers slow down suits by about 5 minutes,
especially if they can prove some sort of negligence. Your waiver
also
says nothing about contest organizer's liability to third parties.
If
you crash and do damage to someone on the ground, they can sue
contest
organizers, and your waiver of liability to you has nothing to do
with
it. For example, consider the glider that ran into a spectator at
tonopah at takeoff. The spectator can sue the contest organizers
and
the SSA.

BB

My club was recently looking at 'meet' insurance as described by
Costello to
cover neglience that might not be otherwise covered by our existing
policies, including premises liability coverage as we own our
airfield. If
hosting a contest 'meet' insurance is available for around $800
(around
$500 if SSA sanctioned).

Frank Whiteley

Actually, it turned out that our premises liability coverage
specifically excluded 'meet' coverage. Hence the 'meet' insurance
coverage requirement if a contest is held. Camps are okay, or so we're
lead to believe.

Frank Whiteley