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Old May 5th 05, 09:42 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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I agree with all you have said with one minor nit-pic on your word
"must"...

If the conditions are tecnically IMC one can still operate under Special
VFR which is a VFR operation.


Special VFR is available only in a surface area.



I vaguely recall there also may be specific conditions within class G
airspace where IMC allows for VFR operations.


There are no such conditions, but VFR minimums can be as low as one mile
visibility and clear of clouds for airplanes in Class G airspace.


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Old May 6th 05, 01:00 AM
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Antoņio" wrote in message
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I agree with all you have said with one minor nit-pic on your word
"must"...

If the conditions are tecnically IMC one can still operate under Special
VFR which is a VFR operation.



Special VFR is available only in a surface area.


Correct. Why do you mention it?

I vaguely recall there also may be specific conditions within class G
airspace where IMC allows for VFR operations.



There are no such conditions, but VFR minimums can be as low as one mile
visibility and clear of clouds for airplanes in Class G airspace.


You are right. (See my post above)

Antonio


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Old May 6th 05, 02:11 AM
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Correct. Why do you mention it?


For clarity.


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Old May 6th 05, 08:34 AM
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
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Correct. Why do you mention it?



For clarity.


I am sorry but I am not sure of what you are attempting to express. Your
mention of Special VFR being available only in a surface area did not,
in my opinion, logically follow the discussion of my comments (and the
resulting responses) to the following comments made by cfeyeye...

"I believe, when all is said and done, IMC refers to the meterological
conditions where one must operate under IFR, and VMC refers to the
conditions where one may operate under VFR."

I stated:
If the conditions are tecnically IMC one can still operate under
Special VFR which is a VFR operation.


And you responded:
"Special VFR is available only in a surface area."

I do not understand the relevance to your mention of *where* special VFR
was made available. So I ask again (so as not to miss the point of your
post): Why did you mention it?

Antonio

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Old May 6th 05, 12:08 PM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Antoņio" wrote in message
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I am sorry but I am not sure of what you are attempting to express. Your
mention of Special VFR being available only in a surface area did not, in
my opinion, logically follow the discussion of my comments (and the
resulting responses) to the following comments made by cfeyeye...

"I believe, when all is said and done, IMC refers to the meterological
conditions where one must operate under IFR, and VMC refers to the
conditions where one may operate under VFR."

I stated:
If the conditions are tecnically IMC one can still operate under Special
VFR which is a VFR operation.


And you responded:
"Special VFR is available only in a surface area."

I do not understand the relevance to your mention of *where* special VFR
was made available. So I ask again (so as not to miss the point of your
post): Why did you mention it?


Because it was not clear that you understood that Special VFR was available
only in a Surface Area. You went on to say that you thought there may be
"specific conditions within class G airspace where IMC allows for VFR
operations", so it was clear that you did not have a proper understanding of
this issue in general.


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Old May 6th 05, 08:52 PM
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Antoņio" wrote in message
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I am sorry but I am not sure of what you are attempting to express. Your
mention of Special VFR being available only in a surface area did not, in
my opinion, logically follow the discussion of my comments (and the
resulting responses) to the following comments made by cfeyeye...

"I believe, when all is said and done, IMC refers to the meterological
conditions where one must operate under IFR, and VMC refers to the
conditions where one may operate under VFR."

I stated:

If the conditions are tecnically IMC one can still operate under Special
VFR which is a VFR operation.


And you responded:
"Special VFR is available only in a surface area."

I do not understand the relevance to your mention of *where* special VFR
was made available. So I ask again (so as not to miss the point of your
post): Why did you mention it?



Because it was not clear that you understood that Special VFR was available
only in a Surface Area. You went on to say that you thought there may be
"specific conditions within class G airspace where IMC allows for VFR
operations", so it was clear that you did not have a proper understanding of
this issue in general.



You left out the "I vaguely recall..." part of the quote but, no biggie,
I see now where you are coming from.

Antonio
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Old May 7th 05, 04:55 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Antoņio" wrote in message
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You left out the "I vaguely recall..." part of the quote but, no biggie,


I left nothing out of the material I quoted. If you review your message
you'll see that what appears between my quotation marks is exactly what you
wrote.



I see now where you are coming from.


Good.


 




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