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"Chris W" wrote in message news:Agqee.2401$cf5.1910@lakeread07...
I think the only way we are going to stop this kind of thing,
is for EVERY rights group to join forces and fight every stupid
political move or law that restricts the rights of any group.

Nawh, I have a better solution... Since the cause of all our problems is all
the damn lawyers that we have, I suggest that we start off by killing half
the lawyers... If that doesn't fix the problems, well, we'll just have to
kill off the other half... And if that still doesn't fix it, we can dig 'em
back up again, I guess... evil-grin

"Chris W" wrote in message news:Agqee.2401$cf5.1910@lakeread07...
I think the only way we are going to stop this kind of thing,
is for EVERY rights group to join forces and fight every stupid
political move or law that restricts the rights of any group.

How about fighting any law that restricts the rights of any INDIVIDUAL?

Groups don't have rights...only individuals.

Matt Barrow wrote:

"Chris W" wrote in message news:Agqee.2401$cf5.1910@lakeread07...


I think the only way we are going to stop this kind of thing,
is for EVERY rights group to join forces and fight every stupid
political move or law that restricts the rights of any group.



How about fighting any law that restricts the rights of any INDIVIDUAL?

Groups don't have rights...only individuals.



Well if you want to get nit picky, you replied to the wrong post.
Obviously it is the individual people that have the rights. However,
the only way to effectively fight for those rights is to organize into a
group. The problem, as I see it, is there are too many small groups
fighting for only certain rights, what we need is for them all to
combine to fight for all rights.

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The problem, as I see it, is there are too many small groups fighting for only certain rights, what we need is for them all to combine to fight for all rights.

Rights conflict with each other.

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"Jose" wrote in message
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The problem, as I see it, is there are too many small groups fighting
for only certain rights, what we need is for them all to combine to fight
for all rights.

Rights conflict with each other.


Not if they're RIGHTS rather than special interest privileges.
The theory of individual rights maintains it can't be a right if it
conflicts with another persons rights. Also, that rights are "negative" and
that positive rights can't exist (i.e., someone has to do something for you
or give something to you).

Rights conflict with each other.

Not if they're RIGHTS rather than special interest privileges.

My right to breathe, your right to smoke.
My right to sleep, your right to fly.
My right to free speech, your right to privacy and freedom from slander.
My right to swing my arms, your right to place your nose in the way.
My right to safety, your right to operate those newfangled aerothingies.
My right to shoot machine guns, your right to domestic tranquility.
My right to deal drugs, your right to to raise children in peace.

The list is endless. You may consider some of these to be "privileges",
but do you really think that rights are never in conflict?

Jose
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Rights conflict with each other.

Not if they're RIGHTS rather than special interest privileges.

My right to breathe, your right to smoke.
My right to sleep, your right to fly.
My right to free speech, your right to privacy and freedom from slander.
My right to swing my arms, your right to place your nose in the way.
My right to safety, your right to operate those newfangled aerothingies.
My right to shoot machine guns, your right to domestic tranquility.
My right to deal drugs, your right to to raise children in peace.

The list is endless. You may consider some of these to be "privileges",
but do you really think that rights are never in conflict?

Try finding out what the term "negative rights" means.

Even before that, try finding out what "RIGHTS" means.

And please don't barf back something you were force-fed in school.

Chris W wrote:

The problem, as I see it, is there are too many small groups
fighting for only certain rights, what we need is for them all to
combine to fight for all rights.

You will never get any of those groups to agree that all the "rights" one of the
others claims to have are actually rights.

George Patterson
There's plenty of room for all of God's creatures. Right next to the
mashed potatoes.

"Chris W" wrote in message
news:JMOee.2463$cf5.417@lakeread07...
Matt Barrow wrote:

"Chris W" wrote in message news:Agqee.2401$cf5.1910@lakeread07...


I think the only way we are going to stop this kind of thing,
is for EVERY rights group to join forces and fight every stupid
political move or law that restricts the rights of any group.



How about fighting any law that restricts the rights of any INDIVIDUAL?

Groups don't have rights...only individuals.



Well if you want to get nit picky, you replied to the wrong post.
Obviously it is the individual people that have the rights. However,
the only way to effectively fight for those rights is to organize into a
group.

Whole different context -- gathering force in numbers.

The problem, as I see it, is there are too many small groups
fighting for only certain rights,

Actaully, most groups fight for rights they maintain are applicable to the
group (blacks, woemn, gays, straights, French...).

what we need is for them all to
combine to fight for all rights.

Well, first they have to understand that rights can only pertain to the
individual...otherwise they're farting into the wind of special interests.

Actaully, most groups fight for rights they maintain are applicable to the
group (blacks, woemn, gays, straights, French...).

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