I Will Never Understand Wind

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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It's those pesky variables (like a single volcano releasing the
equivalent of 400 years of man-made air pollution)

Volcanoes contribute about 110 million tons of CO2 per year, whereas
other
sources ("other" means mailny man made) contribute about 10 billion
tons/year.

Have you got a source for that information? I don't have the figures in
front of me, but I believe your "volcano output" figure is not factoring
in
major eruptions that alone can (and often do) put out an incredible amount
of emissions.

Which is actually beside the point. Are emissions bad, regardless of
source? Sure. Are they worth laying awake at night, worrying?

Only if you live a very sheltered life.

And, is global warming really a bad thing? 2/3rd of the earth is largely
uninhabitable due to COLD.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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And, is global warming really a bad thing? 2/3rd of the earth is largely
uninhabitable due to COLD.

Isn't that more down to the fact that it's wet? :-)

Unfortunately for the places where humans live at the moment, it
just means different - more storms, more floods, more droughts,
etc. With regard to here in the UK, it seems that the weather used
to be best ("summer" weather) in July and August. Now it seems that
the best weather here is in May and June, with July, August and
September being quite wet, with frequent thunderstorms. Sort of thing
you see in sub-tropical areas! Various sub-tropical creatures which
could previously only be found in the far south of the country are
starting to be found further north.

This cannot be totally blamed on man-made warming...indeed the
earth's temperature closely follows solar activity if I remember
correctly. But in support of the man made change, records were
studied from the past 300 years or so. it shows a strong correlation
between solar activity and average earth temperatures - the two went
up and down together...until the Industrial Revolution, when the two
lines started diverging in the same proportion to the estimated global
production of man-made carbon dioxide.

Paul

Has there ever been a prediction by an "environmentalist" that has come
true? All the predictions I have seen that have come due are wrong.
All the worlds population aren't starving. The forests and jungles
aren't gone. The worlds mean temperature hasn't risen 5 degrees. The
Oceans aren't 10 feet higher. Ninety percent of the animals on the
earth haven't been forced into extinction. Oil hasn't been depleted.
The Ice age hasn't come. About the only prediction I have seen from
"environmentalists" that might be true is that the environment is going
to change

I will make a prediction In ten years "environmentalist" will be the
common term for "nutcase".

LG

"Legrande Harris" wrote in message
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I will make a prediction In ten years "environmentalist" will be the
common term for "nutcase".

LG

That prediction came true about 25 years ago.

"Paul Sengupta" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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And, is global warming really a bad thing? 2/3rd of the earth is largely
uninhabitable due to COLD.

Isn't that more down to the fact that it's wet? :-)

Unfortunately for the places where humans live at the moment, it
just means different - more storms, more floods, more droughts,

IIRC, a warmer climate would also be wetter, particularly in the growing
areas. Droughts are, OTOH, more local, I believe.

etc. With regard to here in the UK, it seems that the weather used
to be best ("summer" weather) in July and August. Now it seems that
the best weather here is in May and June, with July, August and
September being quite wet, with frequent thunderstorms. Sort of thing
you see in sub-tropical areas! Various sub-tropical creatures which
could previously only be found in the far south of the country are
starting to be found further north.

A longer growing season (see above).

This cannot be totally blamed on man-made warming...indeed the
earth's temperature closely follows solar activity if I remember
correctly. But in support of the man made change, records were
studied from the past 300 years or so. it shows a strong correlation
between solar activity and average earth temperatures - the two went
up and down together...until the Industrial Revolution, when the two
lines started diverging in the same proportion to the estimated global
production of man-made carbon dioxide.

I believe ice cores tell a much different story. Also, satellite temps,
taken away from heat islands indicate slight cooling over the past 15-20. ??

On Mon, 9 May 2005 at 18:17:51 in message
, Paul Sengupta
wrote:
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
And, is global warming really a bad thing? 2/3rd of the earth is largely
uninhabitable due to COLD.

Isn't that more down to the fact that it's wet? :-)

Unfortunately for the places where humans live at the moment, it
just means different - more storms, more floods, more droughts,
etc. With regard to here in the UK, it seems that the weather used
to be best ("summer" weather) in July and August. Now it seems that
the best weather here is in May and June, with July, August and
September being quite wet, with frequent thunderstorms. Sort of thing
you see in sub-tropical areas! Various sub-tropical creatures which
could previously only be found in the far south of the country are
starting to be found further north.

This cannot be totally blamed on man-made warming...indeed the
earth's temperature closely follows solar activity if I remember
correctly. But in support of the man made change, records were
studied from the past 300 years or so. it shows a strong correlation
between solar activity and average earth temperatures - the two went
up and down together...until the Industrial Revolution, when the two
lines started diverging in the same proportion to the estimated global
production of man-made carbon dioxide.

Can you please provide references for the source of this information? I
am very interested. The industrial revolution started around the 1740s
I think but perhaps you have a later starting point?
--
David CL Francis

"David CL Francis" wrote in message
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On Mon, 9 May 2005 at 18:17:51 in message
, Paul Sengupta
wrote:
"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
...
And, is global warming really a bad thing? 2/3rd of the earth is
largely
uninhabitable due to COLD.

Isn't that more down to the fact that it's wet? :-)

Unfortunately for the places where humans live at the moment, it
just means different - more storms, more floods, more droughts,
etc. With regard to here in the UK, it seems that the weather used
to be best ("summer" weather) in July and August. Now it seems that
the best weather here is in May and June, with July, August and
September being quite wet, with frequent thunderstorms. Sort of thing
you see in sub-tropical areas! Various sub-tropical creatures which
could previously only be found in the far south of the country are
starting to be found further north.

This cannot be totally blamed on man-made warming...indeed the
earth's temperature closely follows solar activity if I remember
correctly. But in support of the man made change, records were
studied from the past 300 years or so. it shows a strong correlation
between solar activity and average earth temperatures - the two went
up and down together...until the Industrial Revolution, when the two
lines started diverging in the same proportion to the estimated global
production of man-made carbon dioxide.

Can you please provide references for the source of this information? I
am very interested. The industrial revolution started around the 1740s
I think but perhaps you have a later starting point?

Look at some of the research they've done with ice core samples and tree
rings.