Need a 2nd nav with GNS 430?

Bryan Martin wrote:
They're on my "to do" list. I may have to get one of those hats with the
built-in can holders and straws but I don't think they'll work with a
headset.

in article kztee.5298$aB.4461@lakeread03, Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired at
wrote on 5/5/05 2:26 PM:


Bryan Martin wrote:


Another method is to group the switches in some sort of logical sequence no
more than four in a group. I have my master all the way to the left of the
panel next to the alternator CB. My ignition selector switch and fuel pump
selector switch are centered in front of me with their CBs. My four exterior
lighting switches are further to the right separated from the other
switches. All these switches have an identical feel but the grouping makes
it unlikely that I'll get the wrong one.

My switch panel is high enough that my knees won't hit it when I'm sitting
in the cockpit but climbing in and out is a bit of a trick.

A picture of my panel is on the Rouges Gallery site.

http://www.alexisparkinn.com/Photoga...rtin/Panel.jpg



Not too shabby, but where are the cup holders?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired



Be creative, invent a cupholder cap that will allow headsets and patent it.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Mine doesn't, others may vary.

Mike
MU-2


"Peter Clark" wrote in message
...
I don't have one handy since I don't own one of these units, but don't
they have some language in the supplement that reads similar to "must
be operated in accordance with the pilots guide" or "see pilots guide
for further information"?

On Thu, 05 May 2005 03:15:34 GMT, "Mike Rapoport"
wrote:

No. The only FAA approved document is the Flight Manual Supplement.

Mike
MU-2


"Jose" wrote in message
om...
Does the language in the GNS530 pilots guide, page 4:

[...]The database is
updated every 28 days and must be current for approved instrument
approach operations."

not create a requirement that the database be current to use the unit
for GPS or overlay approaches?

No, it is the flight manual supplement that is controlling. There may
be
different supplements out there with different requirments too.

You don't think "careless and reckless" would occur to the FAA should
such
operations come to their attention?

Jose
(r.a.homebuilt retained, though I don't follow that group)
--
Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

A LORAN in an RV!! Oh, that is a hoot! I think that would be a first.

No offense.

Scott Moore wrote:

Michael wrote:

You can do everything you need to do with the 430, but there are
situations where havng only one is inconvenient. For about $250 you
can buy an M1 LORAN. Now you get a second set of nav signals


You can get one for less than $250. Just look in the garbage can
behind any avionics shop.

Well, I just got caught up on this thread - it's gone places.

I appreciate the comments and interesting (and not interesting) tangents.

Another option for me would be to go with a Garmin 300XL as my IFR GPS
(those can now be had for very cheap) and go with the SL-30 as well.
(The SL-30 is actually really two nav radios in one, for those who
aren't aware - it can simultaneously tune two stations.)

The GRT EFIS talks to the 300XL as well which is good. My 2nd EFIS
screen would then be used mostly as a moving map to supplement the
300XL's display, which is lacking.

With this setup I can get down to $21K of equipment all-up with my IFR
backup analog stuff, transponder, etc. The only thing I am giving up
that I can see is WAAS approach capability - I don't believe the 300XL
is WAAS upgradable.


Paul Folbrecht wrote:

I am doing some preliminary planning of the panel for my RV-9A and
wondering if a 2nd nav is really a necessity with a GNS 430 in the
panel. Seems to me that flying IFR GPS, with mostly GPS approaches in
the near future, I should not have much need for a 2nd VOR receiver to
identify intersections - obviously the GPS does that itself and the 430
does have one nav radio built-in.

Only problematic area I can think of are the cases where 2 VOR receivers
are pretty much necessary - to identify FAFs on ILS, LOC, and VOR (no
GPS overlay) approaches. I release that ILS's almost always have an OM
anyway and VOR IAPs w/no GPS overlay become scarcer by the month. With
WAAS.. much less of a problem all around (WAAS precision approaches).

If I decide I can do without another nav I save $2000 going with a SL-40
(com only) vs a SL-30 (nav/com).

Interesting in hearing from people with 430s (and up) how they are
flying the things.

(As for navigating with the 430 tango uniform - there's ATC vectors &
the backup handheld GPS.)

.. I may have to get one of those hats with the
built-in can holders and straws but I don't think they'll work with a
headset.

I don't think that will work with your canopy either. Maybe you can make one
that you wear on your belt.