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Old May 8th 05, 04:50 AM
George Patterson
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RST Engineering wrote:
Hundreds of millions?


Per year.

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Old May 8th 05, 10:53 PM
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"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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Hundreds of millions? Hell, we are spending hundreds of millions a DAY in
Iraq to keep our oil flowing. Cold fusion is a dream; hot fusion is
reality. Tens of billions to create a magnetic Klein bottle, and we are
home free for a couple of thousand years.


Think you could get some investors?


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Old May 7th 05, 04:35 PM
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In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
In article au2fe.55730$NU4.36038@attbi_s22, Jay Honeck wrote:
trouble with hydrogen is it's
difficult to store, difficult to handle, costs lots of energy to make
(either with oil directly or by electrolyis).


Today it is, but it's like oil was 100 years ago.

Not wanting to be harsh, but stop thinking statically, in the short
term...try thinking like an inventor/entrepreneur, not a schoolboy/employee.
Most of all, stop barfing back with the schools/media feeds you.


Actually, it's the schools/media feeding everyone this hydrogen pipe
dream. It's precisely because I'm thinking like an inventor/entrepreneur
that I suspect it will be much more practical, cheaper, faster and
better to develop diesel based technologies when it comes to the storage
and use of fuels (particularly in large machines).

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Old May 7th 05, 04:48 PM
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
In article au2fe.55730$NU4.36038@attbi_s22, Jay Honeck wrote:
trouble with hydrogen is it's
difficult to store, difficult to handle, costs lots of energy to make
(either with oil directly or by electrolyis).


Today it is, but it's like oil was 100 years ago.

Not wanting to be harsh, but stop thinking statically, in the short
term...try thinking like an inventor/entrepreneur, not a

schoolboy/employee.
Most of all, stop barfing back with the schools/media feeds you.


Actually, it's the schools/media feeding everyone this hydrogen pipe
dream.


Absolute BS!

It's precisely because I'm thinking like an inventor/entrepreneur
that I suspect it will be much more practical, cheaper, faster and
better to develop diesel based technologies when it comes to the storage
and use of fuels (particularly in large machines).


You call going with a slight adjustment to the status quo
inventor/entrepreneurship?



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Old May 7th 05, 06:21 PM
Dylan Smith
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In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
You call going with a slight adjustment to the status quo
inventor/entrepreneurship?


No, that's why I didn't mention one.

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Old May 8th 05, 02:16 AM
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"Dylan Smith" wrote in message
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In article , Matt Barrow wrote:
You call going with a slight adjustment to the status quo
inventor/entrepreneurship?


No, that's why I didn't mention one.


Umm...yes, you did.

Diesels are neither necessary, even in the longer term, nor desirable due to
their ability to generate pollution if not maintained.

And inventor/entrepreneur is still bound by laws of the market unless they
live in a command economy.


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Old May 7th 05, 03:31 PM
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:au2fe.55730$NU4.36038@attbi_s22...
The thing is, it'd be nice to keep ourselves in a situation where we can
continue to enjoy the high standard of living we do now - and that will
require change of some sort.


Agreed.


Disagree.

As our standard of living has improved over the past couple hundred years,
our envirnment has become, concurrently, healthier.

Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.

But I, as opposed to many, have faith that the economic system will
"provide" us with the solution, as it did when petroleum supplanted whale
oil. If I had to guess at this early stage, I'd say that the solution

will
be hydrogen -- but there's really no way to tell.



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Old May 7th 05, 07:29 PM
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Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.


Do they do this by generating less filth, or by dumping their filth on
the less wealthy people?

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Old May 8th 05, 02:14 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Jose" wrote in message
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Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood

and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.


Do they do this by generating less filth, or by dumping their filth on
the less wealthy people?


Christ, what a stupid response.

Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner cities?

Get a friggin' clue!




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Old May 8th 05, 03:52 AM
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Christ, what a stupid response. [...]
Get a friggin' clue!


hmmph.

Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner cities?


Actually, yes. And the same thing is probably true where you live too.

Here, the garbage is taken to a "transfer station", not a dump. The
difference is garbage in a dump stays there, and garbage in a transfer
station gets transferred elsewhere, in this case to a less affluent city
thirty miles further south. From there (IIRC) it is processed, and put
on a barge to go somewhere else. I'm not sure exactly where "else" it
goes, but it probably ends up in a giant dump in the middle of a nearby
large city where it stays until another barge takes it out to the ocean.
If it ever gets there.

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