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Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner
cities?

Actually, yes. And the same thing is probably true where you live too.

Here, the garbage is taken to a "transfer station", not a dump. The
difference is garbage in a dump stays there, and garbage in a transfer
station gets transferred elsewhere, in this case to a less affluent city
thirty miles further south. From there (IIRC) it is processed, and put on
a barge to go somewhere else. I'm not sure exactly where "else" it goes,
but it probably ends up in a giant dump in the middle of a nearby large
city where it stays until another barge takes it out to the ocean. If it
ever gets there.

I think you're missing Matt's point, which is that a wealthy people will do
whatever it takes to keep themselves wealthy (and successful) -- including
cleaning up the environment. To a large degree, this has been accomplished
in America. (As anyone who lived through the 60s, 70s, and 80s can attest
to. Heck, I couldn't swim in Lake Michigan as a boy. Now, it's so clean,
all the lake perch have died off -- because they can't hide from the
predators! The water is simply too clean.)

In my opinion, inner city ghettos are the biggest paradox in American life.
Having worked in several for seven years of my life, collecting bills, I am
qualified to tell you that they are filthy, vermin-ridden areas that are
populated with the most bizarre dregs of the universe. We are talking lazy,
dangerous people who routinely disregard personal safety to live a lifestyle
that, by any measure, is completely self-destructive.

And, most amazingly of all, much of this happens for NO apparent reason.
The lifestyle is a CHOICE -- it's not "put on them by the Man" or, imposed
because of "prejudice" -- or any other knee-jerk, easy explanations. In
fact, many inner city folks are incredibly intelligent people -- they just
choose to live a morally bankrupt lifestyle that must be quarantined from
the rest of society.

Which, of course, is why the inner cities are so dangerous. No one really
knows how to "fix" them -- so they are merely "contained."

It's all so terribly sad.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I think you're missing Matt's point, which is that a wealthy people will do
whatever it takes to keep themselves wealthy (and successful) -- including
cleaning up the environment.

Point taken. But before they clean up "the" environment, they clean up
"their" environment. If that's sufficient, they stop.

The US is a "wealthy people", and we clean up "our" environment by
polluting other people's (such as Iraq). Why risk leaking our oil all
over the Alaskan tundra when we can let Iraq take the eco-hit, and save
our own? That's the thinking.

Garbage doesn't just "go away". It goes -somewhere-, and it's not the
back yard of the wealthy.

Jose
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Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in

In my opinion, inner city ghettos are the biggest paradox in American
life. Having worked in several for seven years of my life, collecting
bills, I am qualified to tell you that they are filthy, vermin-ridden
areas that are populated with the most bizarre dregs of the universe. We
are talking lazy, dangerous people who routinely disregard personal safety
to live a lifestyle that, by any measure, is completely self-destructive.

And, most amazingly of all, much of this happens for NO apparent reason.
The lifestyle is a CHOICE -- it's not "put on them by the Man" or, imposed
because of "prejudice" -- or any other knee-jerk, easy explanations. In
fact, many inner city folks are incredibly intelligent people -- they just
choose to live a morally bankrupt lifestyle that must be quarantined from
the rest of society.

It's OT but always nice to hear. The Officially Sad, reproductive warriors
and hind-gut fermenters are a decent lot until you have to pay for them.
Which you do. It's odd, eh? You meet the most adorable people who are
happy to live a life of self abuse supported by others barely paying for it.
But, happy they are. On your tab. Your experience is appreciated.

moo

In article FWffe.63591$c24.40058@attbi_s72, Jay Honeck wrote:
cleaning up the environment. To a large degree, this has been accomplished
in America. (As anyone who lived through the 60s, 70s, and 80s can attest
to.

There's still a way to go but I'd agree with that. In Britain, a few
decades ago people died in large numbers from the sooty smog in London.

My DPE who did my instrument checkride told me about how the rivers
used to catch fire in Beaumont, TX.

However, from having lived in the oil refinery part of Houston (smack
between La Porte and Texas City) I can tell you that there is still work
to do - the sky still turns green and the stench can be pretty awful.

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Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man
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"Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"

"Jose" wrote in message
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Christ, what a stupid response. [...]
Get a friggin' clue!

hmmph.

Where are the garbage disposal sites around your town, in the inner
cities?

Actually, yes. And the same thing is probably true where you live too.

Here, the garbage is taken to a "transfer station", not a dump. The
difference is garbage in a dump stays there, and garbage in a transfer
station gets transferred elsewhere, in this case to a less affluent city
thirty miles further south. From there (IIRC) it is processed, and put
on a barge to go somewhere else.

Where is that "someplace else"? Do you know or are you just pulling
suppositions out of your ass?

I'm not sure exactly where "else" it
goes, but it probably ends up in a giant dump in the middle of a nearby
large city where it stays until another barge takes it out to the ocean.

Befoe shooting your mouth off, why don't you try finding out how is happens?

If it ever gets there.

Ignorance is bliss.

Do you know or are you just pulling
suppositions out of your ass?


Befoe shooting your mouth off...

I'm not really all that inclined to respond to rude and vulgar posters
who can't spell.

It doesn't matter where that "someplace else" is - already the town
thirty miles south of us is less wealthy than this town, so makes my
point, which is that the wealthy towns tend to send their garbage to
less wealthy towns (who are more willing to take money in exchange for
allowing the wealthy to dump garbage on them).

I do know where it all ends up, and it's not the backyard of the
wealthy. I even know pretty much where =my= garbage ends up. But the
point it, it doesn't stay in my garage.

Jose
--
Get high on gasoline: fly an airplane.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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As our standard of living has improved over the past couple hundred years,
our envirnment has become, concurrently, healthier.

Wealthier people keep their world cleaner (go to an upscale neighborhood
and
contrst that with the innder city) , even with out the envirofascists
goosestepping.

Total ********- when 4% of the worlds population create 23% of the worlds
greenhouse gasses, I would not equate that with the wealthy protecting the
neighbourhood. In this case by neighbourhood I mean the world.