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Old May 11th 05, 04:04 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"Antoņio" wrote in message
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A *fact* which not all of us share; therefore, a self-proclaimed one.


A fact doesn't have to be shared to be factual.



While it may be true that the majority here are from the USA, that still
does not make this a "USA group".


I didn't say it was a "USA group". I said it's assumed that people are
posting from the USA unless they make it known otherwise. That's a
reasonable assumption because the participants are overwhelmingly from the
US.



That's a *fact* you appear to have missed for some, not unknown, reason.


No, that's just a misinterpretation on your part.


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Old May 11th 05, 05:57 AM
Happy Dog
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"Steven P. McNicoll"

I didn't say it was a "USA group". I said it's assumed that people are
posting from the USA unless they make it known otherwise. That's a
reasonable assumption because the participants are overwhelmingly from the
US.


Define "overwhelming". Then back your claim with figures. Even if it's
90%, that's no excuse for the intellectual laziness of "reasonable
assumption" and it hardly makes it incumbent on any non-US participant to
make an overt reference to their non-US status. Your suggestion is idiotic,
unnecessary and recommended by nobody but you. Your lack of presumption is
touching, though.

moo


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Old May 11th 05, 07:02 AM
Jay Beckman
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"Happy Dog" wrote in message
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"Steven P. McNicoll"

I didn't say it was a "USA group". I said it's assumed that people are
posting from the USA unless they make it known otherwise. That's a
reasonable assumption because the participants are overwhelmingly from
the US.


Define "overwhelming". Then back your claim with figures. Even if it's
90%, that's no excuse for the intellectual laziness of "reasonable
assumption" and it hardly makes it incumbent on any non-US participant to
make an overt reference to their non-US status. Your suggestion is
idiotic, unnecessary and recommended by nobody but you. Your lack of
presumption is touching, though.

moo


It's not snobbery but rather history that makes Steven's claim true.

Go Google this group and you'll see that an "overwhelming" number of posts
discuss flying in the US, by US pilots at US airports under US regulations.

I don't think it's unfair to ask non-US pilots to mention the fact that
their stories, comments and/or critiques are based on non-US regulations,
laws or customs.

I see it like this: We all speak "aviation" here, but Canadian and European
pilots have an accent.

FWIW,

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ


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Old May 11th 05, 02:14 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 10 May 2005 23:02:24 -0700, "Jay Beckman"
wrote in Sdhge.8009$Fa1.6309@fed1read02::

I see it like this: We all speak "aviation" here, but Canadian and European
pilots have an accent.


Given the fact that usenet originated in the US, and the largest group
of computer users reside in the US, usenet is dominated by articles
posted from, and written about occurrences in, the US.

Some pilots in other countries have their own news groups:

aus.aviation
can.aviation
eunet.aviation
fr.rec.aviation
uk.rec.aviation

So it may be natural to assume the articles posted in the
rec.aviation.piloting newsgroup are authored by, and written about,
aviation in the US, but I would characterize such as presumptuous.

When an author's country is readily apparent from his e-mail address,
it is more likely s/he is referring to aviation occurring in the
country indicated by that address. That is a somewhat subtle point,
but valid none the less.

Of course, it demands an acceptance of membership in the global
community, rather than an American-centric bias, to expect articles
from other localities at all.


 




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