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Here's evidence why the gov't assholes overreacted.



 
 
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Old May 12th 05, 12:17 PM
Denny
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Our government is a mob of cowards, trampling the Constitution in a
stampede to ensure their personal safety... I have to believe that the
original signers of the constitution, most of whom personally led
charges into the smoking muzzles of british guns, would gag on what is
happening today... They would spit on the yellow bellied congressmen
who are allowing this to go on... The frantic flight yesterday of the
people in the Whitehouse and the Congress only validates the beliefs of
those who are willing to die for their cause, that we are weak,
godless, and have surrendered the right to exist...

When a society reaches the point that it is willing to put a 19 year
old kid in a humvee in a foreign country and order him to drive down a
road where he will be shot at, or blown up, while at the same time the
50 year olds who put him in that humvee are fleeing like rabbits
because someone in a spam can Cessna got within ten miles of them, then
it is clear that 'insurgents' have won the war even if the battles
still go on...

I feel sick, I have to stop now...

denny

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Old May 12th 05, 03:04 PM
Sport Pilot
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When a society reaches the point that it is willing to put a 19 year
old kid in a humvee in a foreign country and order him to drive down a


road where he will be shot at, or blown up, while at the same time the


50 year olds who put him in that humvee are fleeing like rabbits
because someone in a spam can Cessna got within ten miles of them,

then
it is clear that 'insurgents' have won the war even if the battles
still go on...


So I understand you didn't care for FDR and Truman for the same reason?
How many of those 50 year olds knew it was a C150? None! The capitol
police were running around and shouting as though a nuclear warhead was
on its way. Lets see if and how the authoritys ask how it is the
nations capital was disrupted for such a small aircraft. Also how is
it that a small plane can get withen 3 miles. Surely a jetliner flying
almost 5 times faster could have made it all the way.

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Old May 12th 05, 03:16 PM
Dylan Smith
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....as for the smallest nuclear fission bomb made by the US, here's a web
page with some nice photographs of the Davy Crockett (and other
information).

http://www.brook.edu/FP/projects/nucwcost/davyc.htm

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Old May 12th 05, 04:37 PM
Larry Dighera
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On 12 May 2005 07:04:35 -0700, "Sport Pilot" wrote
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Also how is it that a small plane can get withen 3 miles.


Apparently the ADIZ and Prohibited airspace only keeps the law abiding
out, not the sinister and stupid.

Surely a jetliner flying almost 5 times faster could have made it all the way.


That is a reasonable assumption given the facts in this case.

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Old May 12th 05, 04:35 PM
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Denny wrote:
The frantic flight yesterday of the
people in the Whitehouse and the Congress only validates the beliefs

of
those who are willing to die for their cause, that we are weak,
godless, and have surrendered the right to exist...


Gimme a break man. From their perspective, all they knew is that there
appeared to be an imminent threat. What possible good would have come
from just standing around in the capitol building waiting to be
possibly obliterated. It's not like they could have fought back.

There are situations where people running away can be called cowardly
and weak, but this ain't one of them. To sit there and wait when
there's not one thing that they could've personally done that would've
helped would have just been stupid.

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Old May 12th 05, 07:51 PM
John Galban
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Dylan Smith wrote:

It would have been better if they
had stayed where they are and saved the energy, instead of

demonstrating
to potential terrorists how easily they can be terrorized.


Exactly! It has now been demonstrated that two people flying a
trainer with the destructive power of a Mini Cooper can bring the U.S.
government to a grinding halt. Not only does everything stop, but there
is the bonus of worldwide news coverage showing outright panic in the
streets. If I were a terrorist, I would be overjoyed. My job has been
done for me.

When I contrast yesterday's embarrasment with the real threats that
troops are expected to face daily in Iraq, I am convinced that we have
become a nation of cowards.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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Old May 12th 05, 08:51 PM
Andrew Gideon
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John Galban wrote:

I am convinced that we have
become a nation of cowards.


More accurately: a nation willing to be governed by cowards. I think that
this is worse that what you've written.

- Andrew

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Old May 12th 05, 09:26 PM
Peter Duniho
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"John Galban" wrote in message
ups.com...
Exactly! It has now been demonstrated that two people flying a
trainer with the destructive power of a Mini Cooper can bring the U.S.
government to a grinding halt.


It's worse than that. It has now been demonstrated that if you want to get
all the folks in the Capitol Building all grouped together out in the street
where they are sitting ducks for a guy with an assault rifle, all you have
to do is fly a Cessna 150 into the area.


[...]
When I contrast yesterday's embarrasment with the real threats that
troops are expected to face daily in Iraq, I am convinced that we have
become a nation of cowards.


Andrew says we are governed by cowards. Granted, some of our government may
be. However, I am convinced that others (and especially those in positions
of greater power) are simply using fear to achieve their own underhanded
goals.

On the bright side, a Washington State US Representative, Jim McDermott, was
quoted on the evening news last night, saying basically "all of this panic
is stupid" (I'm paraphrasing...he said it much better). Obviously, not all
of our government is buying into the scare tactics. There may be hope yet.

Pete


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Old May 12th 05, 09:31 PM
Andrew Gideon
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Peter Duniho wrote:

However,Â*IÂ*amÂ*convincedÂ*thatÂ*othersÂ*(andÂ*es peciallyÂ*thoseÂ*inÂ*positions
of greater power) are simply using fear to achieve their own underhanded
goals.


I'll agree to that. However, for fear to be exploited as you describe it
must exist.

Perhaps John's description was in fact more accurate than my own.

- Andrew

 




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