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Old May 13th 05, 07:16 AM
Montblack
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("Jay Honeck" wrote)
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As a wayward Cessna flew deep in restricted airspace, national security
officials were on the phone discussing whether to implement the last line
of defense: shooting it down.



So, where do "the other" bullets go? You know, the ones that miss their
target?


Montblack

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Old May 13th 05, 07:47 AM
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Jay Honeck" wrote)
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As a wayward Cessna flew deep in restricted airspace, national security
officials were on the phone discussing whether to implement the last

line
of defense: shooting it down.



So, where do "the other" bullets go? You know, the ones that miss their
target?


Collateral damage.


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Old May 16th 05, 05:08 AM
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"EastWing" wrote in message
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Collateral damage.


And considering the liberal cesspool that is DC, it would be ACCEPTABLE
collateral damages...


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Old May 13th 05, 08:16 AM
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Hmm, not to mention a 300lb engine and two (about)170lb bodies.
Don't want to have them coming through my roof.

-Kees

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Old May 13th 05, 12:18 PM
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In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn't speak up
because I wasn't a Communist.

Then they came for the Jews. and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a
trade unionist.

Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up because I was a
Protestant.

Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.

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Now they are willing to kill people who get lost and cross invisible
lines in the sky so that the powerful and the politically connected can
feel safe... Will they next start shooting our children because they
ride their bikes across an invisible line on the ground?

The Patriot Act, is not...

denny

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Old May 13th 05, 01:02 PM
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Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.

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Now they are willing to kill people who get lost and cross invisible
lines in the sky so that the powerful and the politically connected can
feel safe... Will they next start shooting our children because they
ride their bikes across an invisible line on the ground?


Denny, normally I'm right with you and your thoughts -- but this is an
absurd comparison.

We have restricted areas over our seat of government for very clear and
well-defined reasons, and every certificated pilot knows it. To compare
this situation to what the Nazis did is to trivialize the death of millions.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old May 13th 05, 01:34 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
We have restricted areas over our seat of government for very clear and
well-defined reasons, snip

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No we don't.




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Old May 17th 05, 07:28 AM
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I agree.

And Honeck (according to his address) flies outta Iowa City, IA and not DC.
I fly out of the middle of nowhere and can't imagine what it is like flying
around the nations capitol.

So I will give these guys the benefit of the doubt. They screwed up, and so
have I.

I can only guess that Honeck and others here never have and never will.

I only wish I, and the rest of us, were as good as you.


"Jay Masino" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
We have restricted areas over our seat of government for very clear and
well-defined reasons, snip

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No we don't.




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Old May 17th 05, 10:49 PM
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John Lakesford wrote:
I agree.

And Honeck (according to his address) flies outta Iowa City, IA and not DC.
I fly out of the middle of nowhere and can't imagine what it is like flying
around the nations capitol.


Well, I've flown west of DC many times and into DC once. I flew into
National at night prior to 9/11. It was actually a piece of cake. I
was rather nervous on the way in having to get an IFR reservation, be
within a certain time window, etc., but it was actually much easier than
I expected. I got vectored out of line to let three airliners land and
circled a few times over one of the monuments, I forget which one now,
but it wasn't far from the prohibited area. It was really easy to see
the landmarks at night and it would have been very hard to fly near the
White House and not know it. The Potomac also provides a very good
landmark.

The only hard part was taxing in after landing!


So I will give these guys the benefit of the doubt. They screwed up, and so
have I.


Yes, they did and in a very serious way.

I fly from a fairly rural area (ELM and N38), but if I fly near a
metropolitan area I make sure I'm prepared. If I'm not, then I don't go
there. These guys were unprepared in several very fundamental ways and
shouldn't have been within 50 miles of DC in their stage of preparation.


Matt
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Old May 13th 05, 02:02 PM
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Jay,

We have restricted areas over our seat of government for very clear and
well-defined reasons,


And what would those be?

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

 




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