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May 13th 05, 04:39 PM
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"Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message . net... ....snip... This is not the same world that it was before 9-11. Actually, it is. We are just trying very hard to pretend it is not. There was terrorism before 9/11. There were nuclear bombs, ground wars, air wars, genocide, many *hundreds* of thousands of people killed on side or another. There were oppressive dictators and benevolent democracies. There were the nourished, the privileged, and the starving. There were civil airliners shot down. There were the "just" wars, and there were the imperial oppressions. There were air blitzes on cities and countryside, with thousands dying. What is so different now? 
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May 13th 05, 05:06 PM
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In article , Icebound wrote:
There was terrorism before 9/11. Indeed. I've lived most of my life (and got on with it) with 'the shadow of terror'. In fact, news of yet another bomb from either the IRA or one of the loyalist paramilitaries was so common place it barely registered with me at one point. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee"
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May 13th 05, 06:19 PM
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"Icebound" wrote in message ... "Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message . net... ...snip... This is not the same world that it was before 9-11. Actually, it is. We are just trying very hard to pretend it is not. There was terrorism before 9/11. There were nuclear bombs, ground wars, air wars, genocide, many *hundreds* of thousands of people killed on side or another. There were oppressive dictators and benevolent democracies. There were the nourished, the privileged, and the starving. There were civil airliners shot down. There were the "just" wars, and there were the imperial oppressions. There were air blitzes on cities and countryside, with thousands dying. What is so different now? What is different is the U.S. government got involved and as it always does in such situations its responds by punishing its law abiding citizens.
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May 13th 05, 06:39 PM
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message m... "Icebound" wrote in message ... "Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message . net... ...snip... This is not the same world that it was before 9-11. Actually, it is. We are just trying very hard to pretend it is not. There was terrorism before 9/11. There were nuclear bombs, ground wars, air wars, genocide, many *hundreds* of thousands of people killed on side or another. There were oppressive dictators and benevolent democracies. There were the nourished, the privileged, and the starving. There were civil airliners shot down. There were the "just" wars, and there were the imperial oppressions. There were air blitzes on cities and countryside, with thousands dying. What is so different now? What is different is the U.S. government got involved and as it always does in such situations its responds by punishing its law abiding citizens. And the US government is alone in this?
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May 14th 05, 12:04 AM
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"Icebound" wrote in message ... "Dudley Henriques" dhenriques@noware .net wrote in message . net... ...snip... This is not the same world that it was before 9-11. Actually, it is. We are just trying very hard to pretend it is not. There was terrorism before 9/11. There were nuclear bombs, ground wars, air wars, genocide, many *hundreds* of thousands of people killed on side or another. There were oppressive dictators and benevolent democracies. There were the nourished, the privileged, and the starving. There were civil airliners shot down. There were the "just" wars, and there were the imperial oppressions. There were air blitzes on cities and countryside, with thousands dying. What is so different now? All of the above is true, but 9-11 changed everything anyway. The same things are still going on; it's just that enough people were temporarily paying attention after 9-11 that the politicians had to take notice. I have no doubt that given enough time without another hit.....based on past experience......we will probably as a nation go right back into the same denial and ignore mode we were in before 9-11. Dudley Henriques
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