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"gatt" wrote in message
... People can play logical soccer with the issue all they want, but the airspace is closed, any legitimate pilot in America knows the airspace is closed, it's damned difficult to get lost in the DC area and fighters were scrambled to either deter or destroy the aircraft. So far, so good. As it should be. There's no particular reason at this point to let pilots run amok over Washington DC. Sorry, you lose there. Your claim is far from a foregone conclusion. |
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![]() "Peter Duniho" wrote in message As it should be. There's no particular reason at this point to let pilots run amok over Washington DC. Sorry, you lose there. Your claim is far from a foregone conclusion. Peter, there's a war going on. Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on airplanes either. -c |
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![]() "gatt" wrote in message ... Peter, there's a war going on. Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on airplanes either. -c No grenades (I think) but guns are OK.... As for the 'war' going on, 'fraid not.... |
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"gatt" wrote in message
... Peter, there's a war going on. Sort of. Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on airplanes either. What's that got to do with Americans' right to freely move about the country? While it is common for security measures to be implemented without regard to whether they will actually accomplish anything, that doesn't make it right. |
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![]() "Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on airplanes either. What's that got to do with Americans' right to freely move about the country? Are you kidding me? What they can't effectively control, they just pass legislation against. So everybody pays a penalty by having their individual freedoms taken away. Except, of course, those who don't care to play by the rules. -- Hello, my name is Mike, and I am an airplane addict.... |
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"Mike W." wrote in message
... Are you kidding me? What they can't effectively control, they just pass legislation against. So everybody pays a penalty by having their individual freedoms taken away. Except, of course, those who don't care to play by the rules. You haven't explained how the 2nd Amendment along with the exception disallowing guns and grenades on airplanes (and technically, those are only disallowed on commercial flights) has anything to do with Americans' rights to freely move about the country (and in particular, justifying restricting that right). Why would I be kidding you? Pete |
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![]() "Peter Duniho" wrote in message ... You haven't explained how the 2nd Amendment along with the exception disallowing guns and grenades on airplanes (and technically, those are only disallowed on commercial flights) has anything to do with Americans' rights to freely move about the country (and in particular, justifying restricting that right). Pete I guess I misread the direction of your post. All amendments have exceptions to them, not just the second. In your example, it is probably for the best. I think the thing that bothers me the most about all of this TSA 'national security' crap, it is not protecting the nation at all, just the idiots that are running it. |
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"Mike W." wrote in message
... I guess I misread the direction of your post. I think so. [...] I think the thing that bothers me the most about all of this TSA 'national security' crap, it is not protecting the nation at all, just the idiots that are running it. I certainly agree, if by "protect" you mean "ensure continuous employment". Pete |
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On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:32:45 -0700, gatt wrote:
Peter, there's a war going on. yeah, and you haven't started it, you are only defending yourselves, etc. etc. yaddayadda. Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on airplanes either. but it would help the government to have a better control if there would be a gun regulation. you don't have something to hide, have you? no? so you can register your guns with your government .. help your government fight terrorism. you want to help your government fighting terrorism, won't you? -c #m, opening Pandoras box. :-) -- http://www.hotze.priv.at/album/aviation/caution.jpg |
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Martin Hotze wrote:
On Fri, 13 May 2005 16:32:45 -0700, gatt wrote: Peter, there's a war going on. yeah, and you haven't started it, you are only defending yourselves, etc. etc. yaddayadda. Despite the 2nd Amendment, we don't let people carry guns and grenades on airplanes either. but it would help the government to have a better control if there would be a gun regulation. you don't have something to hide, have you? no? so you can register your guns with your government .. help your government fight terrorism. you want to help your government fighting terrorism, won't you? Sure, but someday you may have to defend yourself against your government and hence the second amendment. The writers of the constitution were well aware of this potential and thus they planned for it. Matt |
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