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Old May 17th 05, 12:36 AM
Dave Stadt
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"Garner Miller" wrote in message
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In article , Matt Barrow
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You proved my point. Of all the captains at Delta, for example, how
many have been there 30 years? And how many are on the 777? Far,

far
fewer than the entire pilot pool, I assure you.


His numbers are a hell of a lot closer than yours were, and he qualified

his
statements.



Fine.

A first-year pilot at Continental makes $25,900. UPS, $26,200.
United, $23,400. At Delta, $43,600. And surprise, Southwest comes
out ON TOP in first-year pay, at $44,900. And the 10-year captain at
Southwest? $166,000 -- *more* than the 10-year 737 captain at Delta
makes.


And that Southwest pilot probably flies twice as many hours per month. You
are going to have to look long and hard for sympathy for pilots working for
the majors.

The thousands upon thousands of them on furlough are making exactly $0,
so make sure you factor that into your average. That's a very real
risk in this industry.


As it is in any industry. Nice try but no bannana.


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Old May 16th 05, 02:55 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Garner Miller" wrote in message
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In article , Don Hammer
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Try looking at the real killers of the company; those egotistical
union pilots that get $250K + a year for 20 hours of work a month....


Surely a group of pilots should know better than to believe that. VERY
few pilots approach anything close to what you describe, and if they
do, it's for about a year before they turn 60.

The rest of us are away from home 400 hours a month (compared to your
typical nine-to-five gone less than half of that), and dreaming of the
day we hit the six-figure mark.

Ah, yes, the "greedy union pilots."

Try being a seventh-year employee at a regional airline, flying as a
Part 121 captain, for less than 40K a year. Try and balance that
against your mythical 20-hour, $250K captain.


Non-sequitur.

That's why UAL is failing and the regionals are sorta prospering.




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Old May 17th 05, 04:19 PM
Don Hammer
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On Mon, 16 May 2005 00:37:58 GMT, Garner Miller
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The rest of us are away from home 400 hours a month (compared to your
typical nine-to-five gone less than half of that), and dreaming of the
day we hit the six-figure mark.


Break that 400 hours down for me --

Commuting because you don't want to live at your base = ???hrs
Sleeping in a crash pad for the same reason = ???hrs
Actual duty time = ???hrs
Actual flight time = ???hrs
Number of days off per month = ???

Six pilots earning $250K = that same retirement you are bitching about
for the executive. How many at United are earning that?

I don't want to hear about the age 60 retirement either. United and
American unions have kept that in place for the young guys coming up.
The Union's are focused on protecting the lowest common denominator
instead of the welfare of the best and brightest. Only Southwest and
their union have come out in favor of flying past 60.

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