It was really close...

3. Light aircraft are a possible means of delivering a weapon of some
kind.

So are every car, van, SUV and truck driving around in DC. And most of
them can carry a lot more explosive payload than the overwhelming majority
of GA aircraft.

This argument sounds amazingly like the Army/Navy brass, back in the 1920s,
when they were trying to pooh-pooh Billy Mitchell's theory that an aircraft
could sink battleships, which, at the time, were thought to be impregnable
from the air.

Obviously, history teaches us that aircraft turned out to be the ultimate
battlefield weapons, and control of the air is now considered essential to
any battle.

Bottom line: It's relatively easy to secure land targets from Ryder trucks,
but it's very difficult to secure them from a Cherokee Six filled with
anthrax and C-4.

THAT is why we have an ADIZ over D.C., and anyone who argues otherwise is
only fooling themselves.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Bottom line: It's relatively easy to secure land targets from Ryder trucks,
but it's very difficult to secure them from a Cherokee Six filled with
anthrax and C-4.

THAT is why we have an ADIZ over D.C., and anyone who argues otherwise is
only fooling themselves.

Following that line of reasoning, there should be a no-fly zone around
DC, and a huge ADIZ around every major city in the country.

The price of freedom is... well... freedom.

Jose
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Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

Jose,

The price of freedom is... well... freedom.


I love it!

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Jose wrote:
Bottom line: It's relatively easy to secure land targets from
Ryder trucks,
but it's very difficult to secure them from a Cherokee Six filled
with
anthrax and C-4.

THAT is why we have an ADIZ over D.C., and anyone who argues
otherwise is
only fooling themselves.

Following that line of reasoning, there should be a no-fly zone
around
DC, and a huge ADIZ around every major city in the country.

The price of freedom is... well... freedom.

Jose
--
Money: what you need when you run out of brains.
for Email, make the obvious change in the address.

I don't have a problem with an ADIZ. The problem I have is that
airliners which can carry more explosives than a Ryder truck are
allowed to fly in it, but GA planes are not.

I don't have a problem with an ADIZ. The problem I have is that
airliners which can carry more explosives than a Ryder truck are
allowed to fly in it, but GA planes are not.

Commercial air carriers have tightened their security to the point
where (I suspect) it would be impossible for a 9/11-style attack to
succeed again using commercial airliners as weapons.

Not to mention the fact that the passengers would immediately and
violently resist, as opposed to the pre-9/11 hands-in-your-lap approach
to a hijacking.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
I don't have a problem with an ADIZ. The problem I have is that
airliners which can carry more explosives than a Ryder truck are
allowed to fly in it, but GA planes are not.

Commercial air carriers have tightened their security to the point
where (I suspect) it would be impossible for a 9/11-style attack to
succeed again using commercial airliners as weapons.

Not to mention the fact that the passengers would immediately and
violently resist, as opposed to the pre-9/11 hands-in-your-lap
approach
to a hijacking.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


All they have to do is get a pilot trained and working for an airliner!
Sounds silly but they are just that patient! As for as the
passengers, they won't know a thing till they see the Washington
monument go by the wing, then it will be too late!

On 16 May 2005 13:40:21 -0700, Sport Pilot wrote:

All they have to do is get a pilot trained and working for an airliner!

heck. they have the money for their own airline.
operate some years .. build up trust. then, one day there will be some
jumbos heading to their targets on the same time ... this isn't really a
big deal. maybe they already operate their airline.

and it would be an even better idea to attack littletown in nowhere, too.
because then _nobody_ will feel safe any longer at any place. shock and
awe, you know.

#m

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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

I don't have a problem with an ADIZ. The problem I have is that
airliners which can carry more explosives than a Ryder truck are
allowed to fly in it, but GA planes are not.

Commercial air carriers have tightened their security to the point
where (I suspect) it would be impossible for a 9/11-style attack to
succeed again using commercial airliners as weapons.

Come on Jay, you can't really believe that. There are so many holes in the
window dressing security you can drive a Ryder through them.

What are you smoking?

The ramp people working for these "secure" airlines have again and again
shown to be the weak link. The TSA/FAA/et.al. haven't shown that hi-jackings
aren't still possible, only tougher to accomplish.

There is no real security on these big airliners.


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...

I don't have a problem with an ADIZ. The problem I have is that
airliners which can carry more explosives than a Ryder truck are
allowed to fly in it, but GA planes are not.

Commercial air carriers have tightened their security to the point
where (I suspect) it would be impossible for a 9/11-style attack to
succeed again using commercial airliners as weapons.

Not to mention the fact that the passengers would immediately and
violently resist, as opposed to the pre-9/11 hands-in-your-lap approach
to a hijacking.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay,

Commercial air carriers have tightened their security to the point
where (I suspect) it would be impossible for a 9/11-style attack to
succeed again using commercial airliners as weapons.

Not to mention the fact that the passengers would immediately and
violently resist, as opposed to the pre-9/11 hands-in-your-lap approach
to a hijacking.


Sorry, but me thinks you live in a dream world. The "security" is window
dressing, nothing else. It looks good to voters. That's it.

When have you last flown commercially?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)