boycott united forever

"Garner Miller" wrote in message
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In article , James Robinson
wrote:

"A 10-year captain of Boeing 737-200s makes $157,152 at Delta, and
$178,152
at United. The most senior captain, with 30 years of experience, flying
a
Boeing 777 wide-body, makes $248,040 at Delta, and $254,748 at United."

You proved my point. Of all the captains at Delta, for example, how
many have been there 30 years? And how many are on the 777? Far, far
fewer than the entire pilot pool, I assure you.


His numbers are a hell of a lot closer than yours were, and he qualified his
statements.

You just spewed.

In article , Matt Barrow
wrote:

You proved my point. Of all the captains at Delta, for example, how
many have been there 30 years? And how many are on the 777? Far, far
fewer than the entire pilot pool, I assure you.


His numbers are a hell of a lot closer than yours were, and he qualified his
statements.


Fine.

A first-year pilot at Continental makes $25,900. UPS, $26,200.
United, $23,400. At Delta, $43,600. And surprise, Southwest comes
out ON TOP in first-year pay, at $44,900. And the 10-year captain at
Southwest? $166,000 -- *more* than the 10-year 737 captain at Delta
makes.

The thousands upon thousands of them on furlough are making exactly $0,
so make sure you factor that into your average. That's a very real
risk in this industry. Combine that with the mandatory age-60
retirement, and there really aren't that many years where you're making
the kind of money you guys keep -- to use your word -- "spewing."


You just spewed.

As did you.

--
Garner R. Miller
ATP/CFII/MEI
Clifton Park, NY =USA=

Garner Miller wrote:

In article , Matt Barrow
wrote:


You proved my point. Of all the captains at Delta, for example, how
many have been there 30 years? And how many are on the 777? Far, far
fewer than the entire pilot pool, I assure you.


His numbers are a hell of a lot closer than yours were, and he qualified his
statements.



Fine.

A first-year pilot at Continental makes $25,900. UPS, $26,200.
United, $23,400. At Delta, $43,600. And surprise, Southwest comes
out ON TOP in first-year pay, at $44,900. And the 10-year captain at
Southwest? $166,000 -- *more* than the 10-year 737 captain at Delta
makes.

However, it really is the cost per passenger flown that makes the
biggest difference and the data that another poster provided shows that
Southwest is in much better shape in this regard, apparently largely due
to their pilots flying much more hours per month for their salary.


The thousands upon thousands of them on furlough are making exactly $0,
so make sure you factor that into your average. That's a very real
risk in this industry. Combine that with the mandatory age-60
retirement, and there really aren't that many years where you're making
the kind of money you guys keep -- to use your word -- "spewing."

Yes, those are risks, but they are hardly unique to pilots. Layoffs are
common in many other industries. Few have legally mandated retirements,
however, most large companies now strongly encourage retirements by
employees starting at 55. Sure, the employees don't HAVE to retire, but
it often is pretty much made clear that you don't want to say no.


Matt

"Garner Miller" wrote in message
...
In article , Matt Barrow
wrote:

You proved my point. Of all the captains at Delta, for example, how
many have been there 30 years? And how many are on the 777? Far,
far
fewer than the entire pilot pool, I assure you.


His numbers are a hell of a lot closer than yours were, and he qualified
his
statements.


Fine.

A first-year pilot at Continental makes $25,900. UPS, $26,200.
United, $23,400. At Delta, $43,600. And surprise, Southwest comes
out ON TOP in first-year pay, at $44,900. And the 10-year captain at
Southwest? $166,000 -- *more* than the 10-year 737 captain at Delta
makes.

And that Southwest pilot probably flies twice as many hours per month. You
are going to have to look long and hard for sympathy for pilots working for
the majors.

The thousands upon thousands of them on furlough are making exactly $0,
so make sure you factor that into your average. That's a very real
risk in this industry.

As it is in any industry. Nice try but no bannana.