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Old May 24th 05, 09:29 PM
Jose
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Machine consciousness is not "dumb" nor "scary."

Machine consciousness =is= scary, because it means that we won't know
what the machines will do, or why. It's already happening with
software, although part of the problem there is that the publishers
refuse to tell us what the software is =actually= doing, (and most
people don't care to know).

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Old May 25th 05, 11:20 AM
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In article , Jose wrote:
Machine consciousness is not "dumb" nor "scary."


Machine consciousness =is= scary, because it means that we won't know
what the machines will do, or why.


No more scary than other human beings, which we don't know what will do
or why.

Imagine the benefits - by the time we can make a truly conscious machine
with human intelligence, we will probably have the technology to do a
brain-dump. You could brain dump into a machine, discard your feeble
meat body, and go off into space and explore the planets - requiring no
pesky, complex, difficult life support to keep meat alive.
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Old May 25th 05, 02:35 PM
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[machine conscousness is ]No more scary than other human beings, which we don't know what will do
or why.


Human beings are not mere tools. When I deal with a human or a dog or
even a frog, I do not expect it to merely do what it was designed to do.
When I put a light on a certain spot on stage, I expect that it will
stay there, even if it disagrees with me as to whether or not I am doing
a good job of lighting. If the lights start to design themselves, I
will lose control over whatever it is I am trying to accomplish for the
audience. Likewise I don't want my hammer to start reviewing the
architectural plans of the house I'm building and then refuse to hammer
the seventh and eighth beams into place.

I expect certain behavior from tools, and act accordingly. I expect
different behavior from people, and treat them accordingly.

Imagine the benefits - by the time we can make a truly conscious machine
with human intelligence, we will probably have the technology to do a
brain-dump. You could brain dump into a machine, discard your feeble
meat body, and go off into space and explore the planets - requiring no
pesky, complex, difficult life support to keep meat alive.


I don't think I'd ever want to do that.

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Old May 25th 05, 05:25 PM
Dylan Smith
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In article , Jose wrote:
[machine conscousness is ]No more scary than other human beings, which we don't know what will do
or why.


Human beings are not mere tools. When I deal with a human or a dog or
even a frog, I do not expect it to merely do what it was designed to do.


You're evidently not used to computers, they seem to do what they damn
well please :-)

Imagine the benefits - by the time we can make a truly conscious machine
with human intelligence, we will probably have the technology to do a
brain-dump. You could brain dump into a machine, discard your feeble
meat body, and go off into space and explore the planets - requiring no
pesky, complex, difficult life support to keep meat alive.


I don't think I'd ever want to do that.


I'd be first to sign up.

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