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![]() Steve wrote: Sport Pilot wrote: The model diesel engines will not turn as fast as the gas or methanol/nitro engines because the fuel (ether and kerosene) will not burn as fast. I say again: there is no magic rule that says "diesel burns slower" than gasoline. Increasing the boost pressure can increase the burn rate AS MUCH AS YOU WANT. Its just not done most of the time, because no one WANTS a 7000 RPM engine when a 4000 RPM engine is available to do the same job. People only build 7000 RPM engines when there's no other way to get the power. This is because the fuel burns slower, not because of the cycle, because all, the spark ignition gas engine, the glow plug methanol/nitro engine, and the compression ignition engine, are actually otto cycle engines. No, that's already been covered. Diesel (true diesel with either direct or pre-chamber injection) is a subtly different cycle than the Otto cycle. Its constant-pressure combustion instead of constant-volume combustion. I was not quite correct if I said desiel fuel burns slower, it is however made to ignite better with desiel engines so that the fuel ignites spontanously when injected. The fuel burns slower because it is injected over a period of time. However, I may have been correct about the model fuel. There are diesel conversion heads for model glow engines. This replaces the head and glow plug with a head with a varible compression. You adjust the timing by adjusting the compression. The fuel is a mix of kerosene, ether, amyl nitrate, and oil. This fuel will ignite at a much lower temperature than true desiel fuel. The ether and amyl nitrate are the componets which ignite at a low temp. Though ether is extremely volatile it is not a very high energy fuel and I think it burns slowly. These converted engines will turn large propellers at slower speeds than the glow engines they were converted from. Another example of a high energy fuel that limits speed is nitromethane. Because it is a monopropellent the racers can pretty much inject as much as their ignition can ignite, except for hydrolocking. That is if more fuel is injected than the combustion chamber volume the engine will blow up. But nitro burns slowly so RPM is more or less limited to just over 10,000 RPM loaded. The slow burning is why you see huge flames coming out the exhaust. |
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