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Old May 26th 05, 01:37 AM
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Lee,
The ASW-24 is a great aircraft, but I'm sure you have discovered in
your research that the 24's original airfoil was discovered to not
perform as well as expected in rough air. There was a relatively
simple remedy which was to "blunt" the leading edge. Before worrying
about the winglets I'd check to ensure that this modification has been
done.
And to answer your question, if the avionics are top notch and the
winglets PROPERLY installed and the finish in very good condition, then
$45k sounds like a fair price in my opinion.
It's a beautiful aircraft.
Respectfully,

Lee Rusconi wrote:
I have an opportunity to buy a 1988 ASW-24 which is
in beautiful condition, good electronics and great
trailer. The glider is equipped with M&H winglets.
The asking price is $45,000 US. I would appreciate
any feedback regarding the winglets and/or the price.

Thanks


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Old May 26th 05, 02:09 AM
Udo Rumpf
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In fact it is the other way around.
Is the winglets that is the key.
The "blunting", changing the first 10% of the airfoil in the outboard
section
of the wing was thought to improve the climb but it turns out to be a well
designed winglet that made the difference. The factory winglet did not
perform as well. Those in the know are changing back to the original airfoil
as
the cruise is improved but climb does not deteriorate.
It was not the airfoil but rather the small Reynolds numbers in the wing tip
region that caused the problem, which the winglet corrected.
The 24 is still very competitive indeed.
I do agree with the rest of your comments.
Regards
Udo

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Lee,
The ASW-24 is a great aircraft, but I'm sure you have discovered in
your research that the 24's original airfoil was discovered to not
perform as well as expected in rough air. There was a relatively
simple remedy which was to "blunt" the leading edge. Before worrying
about the winglets I'd check to ensure that this modification has been
done.
And to answer your question, if the avionics are top notch and the
winglets PROPERLY installed and the finish in very good condition, then
$45k sounds like a fair price in my opinion.
It's a beautiful aircraft.
Respectfully,

Lee Rusconi wrote:
I have an opportunity to buy a 1988 ASW-24 which is
in beautiful condition, good electronics and great
trailer. The glider is equipped with M&H winglets.
The asking price is $45,000 US. I would appreciate
any feedback regarding the winglets and/or the price.

Thanks



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Old May 26th 05, 01:34 PM
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I slightly disagree with Udo. The best result, in my opinion, having
flown '24's in all the combinations, is the leading edge mod and
improved winglets together give the best total result.
I never saw any deterioration of glide with leading edge mod and did
see improvement in gust sensitivity.
He is very much correct that winglet is most important as it keps the
tip working and aileron effective down to a speed where overall drag on
the airfoil begins to rise due to separation.
'24 is a great glider, I'd still have it today if Gerhard had not made
a little bit better glider in the "28.
Good Luck UH

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Old May 26th 05, 10:02 AM
J.A.M.
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I fly an ASW-24, original airfoil, and it climbs nicely, paired with
another -24B. Also climbs well with LS-3, DG-200, DG-400, Discus, PW-5 and
so on. I fly in Spain, so thermals are usually strong and turbulent. No
problem there.
I am in the belief that the leading edge thing is more a factory response to
gliding gossip, than an actual aerodinamic problem.

Great bird, great cockpit, rigging, handling, etc. You wouldn't regret
buying it.
Replace the electric ballast dump with a mechanic one. The electric takes
forever to dump.
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Lee,
The ASW-24 is a great aircraft, but I'm sure you have discovered in
your research that the 24's original airfoil was discovered to not
perform as well as expected in rough air. There was a relatively
simple remedy which was to "blunt" the leading edge. Before worrying
about the winglets I'd check to ensure that this modification has been
done.
And to answer your question, if the avionics are top notch and the
winglets PROPERLY installed and the finish in very good condition, then
$45k sounds like a fair price in my opinion.
It's a beautiful aircraft.
Respectfully,

Lee Rusconi wrote:
I have an opportunity to buy a 1988 ASW-24 which is
in beautiful condition, good electronics and great
trailer. The glider is equipped with M&H winglets.
The asking price is $45,000 US. I would appreciate
any feedback regarding the winglets and/or the price.

Thanks




 




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