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Old May 26th 05, 10:12 PM
Dave Butler
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Chris wrote:
"Dave Butler" wrote in message
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Yes. I've gone over the top of Chicago twice on the way to OSH. You know
you can't get an IFR routing anywhere near there, so I crossed the CBAS at
10500 VFR. I was happy to have advisories as the aluminum concentration
was high. The controller seemed to be glad I was talking and squawking,
too. He did give me a couple of zigzags, but that's better than going way
out over Lake Michigan or 50 miles to the west.



Another question then: I am planning to fly from PVD Providence RI to
Madison MSN on 24/25th July. The backend on the route was to be MKG
(Muskegon), BAE (Badger) and MSN. Is it likely then that I will not get
cleared IFR through to MSN and if wanted to follow that route would be best
to cancel IFR and go VFR weather permitting even getting a pop up clearance
at MSN to descend through cloud?


I think you're OK that far north of Chicago, but I'm from NC, I only go there at
OSH time, so someone from that part of the country can give you a better answer.

Dave
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Old May 27th 05, 03:18 AM
John R. Copeland
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"Dave Butler" wrote in message =
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Chris wrote:
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Another question then: I am planning to fly from PVD Providence RI to =


Madison MSN on 24/25th July. The backend on the route was to be MKG=20
(Muskegon), BAE (Badger) and MSN. Is it likely then that I will not =

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cleared IFR through to MSN and if wanted to follow that route would =

be best=20
to cancel IFR and go VFR weather permitting even getting a pop up =

clearance=20
at MSN to descend through cloud?=20

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I think you're OK that far north of Chicago, but I'm from NC, I only =

go there at=20
OSH time, so someone from that part of the country can give you a =

better answer.
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Dave


Yes, Chris will be OK flying MKG-BAE.
I routinely file direct FWA-OSH or direct FWA-BRAVE (east of Racine).
Both of those routes lie closer to Chicago's Class B than Chris' plan,
but ZAU never has a problem with them.
In fact, it seems like BRAVE may be one of the preferred hand-over =
points
for traffic arriving into Milwaukee Approach airspace.

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Old May 28th 05, 12:17 AM
Steven P. McNicoll
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"John R. Copeland" wrote in message
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In fact, it seems like BRAVE may be one of the preferred hand-over
points for traffic arriving into Milwaukee Approach airspace.


BRAVE is an arrival fix for Milwaukee approach.



 




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