Another Intercept, but this time it's different

"Mike 'Flyin'8'" wrote in message
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Yeah... Did not think about that fact...


On Sat, 28 May 2005 01:59:38 GMT, George Patterson
wrote:

wrote:
According to the story, which we all know how accurate those can be, he
was
"NEAR" 18000, I read that as 17,999 and not 18,001. Benefit of the
doubt
to him, especially given the accuracy of the equipment.

This is Edwards AFB. The accuracy of military radar is along the lines of
"He's
at 18,027' 1", Captain."

They can also say, "The pilot is a male Caucasian, 34 years old, 5'11" tall
and 205 lbs, married with two kids...not getting any from his old lady."

"Matt Barrow"
They can also say, "The pilot is a male Caucasian, 34 years old, 5'11"
tall
and 205 lbs, married with two kids...not getting any from his old lady."


I feel for the guy - everyone wants him to keep clear of their restricted
zones!


Montblack

"Montblack" wrote in message
...

"Matt Barrow"
They can also say, "The pilot is a male Caucasian, 34 years old, 5'11"
tall
and 205 lbs, married with two kids...not getting any from his old lady."


I feel for the guy - everyone wants him to keep clear of their restricted
zones!


Hide the wim'men!!

Matt Barrow wrote:

at 18,027' 1", Captain."


They can also say, "The pilot is a male Caucasian, 34 years old, 5'11" tall
and 205 lbs, married with two kids...not getting any from his old lady."

I guess this is the same data gathering ability that said "Yes, Iraq had
WMD's" as well?

Not trying to flame a political debate, but yanno... there IS a limit to
capabilities.

Dave

"Dave S" wrote in message
ink.net...


Matt Barrow wrote:

at 18,027' 1", Captain."


They can also say, "The pilot is a male Caucasian, 34 years old, 5'11"
tall
and 205 lbs, married with two kids...not getting any from his old lady."

I guess this is the same data gathering ability that said "Yes, Iraq had
WMD's" as well?

Not trying to flame a political debate, but yanno... there IS a limit to
capabilities.

Ya know...some people equate intelligence gathering the way that Hollywood
portrays it in the spy movies.

I guess all those 100,000 Kurds really weren't gassed, huh?

Dave S wrote:

I guess this is the same data gathering ability that said "Yes, Iraq had
WMD's" as well?

No, this is a state-of-the-art military radar system.

Not trying to flame a political debate,

Bull****.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

On Sat, 28 May 2005 14:42:05 GMT, Dave S
wrote:

I guess this is the same data gathering ability that said "Yes, Iraq had
WMD's" as well?

You aren't up to date. There never were any WMD and Bush knew it all
along as revealed by the memo that was leaked to the London Times
three weeks ago. Here's the information you missed:

*** Begin Quote ***

The memo was written by British national security aide Matthew
Rycroft, based on notes he took during a July 2002 meeting of British
Prime Minister Tony Blair and his advisers, including Richard
Dearlove, the head of Britain's MI-6 intelligence service who had
recently met with Bush administration officials.

Since being leaked to a British newspaper, the memo has raised
questions anew about whether the Bush administration misrepresented
prewar intelligence about suspected weapons of mass destruction in
Iraq to justify military action against Saddam Hussein's regime.

"Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified
by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD," the memo said. "But the
intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. It seemed
clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if
the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not
threatening hi-bility was less than that of Libya, North Korea or
Iran."

*** End Quote ***

"Blair's offfice has not disputed the authenticity of the memo", but
the White House has of course claimed it's false.

See: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/051705Y.shtml for the complete
story, or just google "the downing street memo", or google "memo wmd".

Corky Scott

From what the ATC can see its more like: 17,900 or 18000 feet.. the
Mode C encodes in 100 ft increments

Dave

wrote:

According to the story, which we all know how accurate those can be, he was
"NEAR" 18000, I read that as 17,999 and not 18,001. Benefit of the doubt
to him, especially given the accuracy of the equipment.

"aluckyguess" wrote:

I thought he went above 18000 feet and not talking to approach.and that
was why they detained him. I hope they at least paid for his fuel.

Dave S wrote:
From what the ATC can see its more like: 17,900 or 18000 feet.. the
Mode C encodes in 100 ft increments

Except this wasn't ATC. This was the U.S.A.F..

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.

On Fri, 27 May 2005 10:00:15 -0700, "aluckyguess" wrote in
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I thought he went above 18000 feet and not talking to approach.and that was
why they detained him.

No mention of that at the link in the article that started this
thread:

PALMDALE, Calif. — A small plane that repeatedly ventured close to
restricted air space at Edwards Air Force Base (search) was
intercepted by two F-15 fighter jets (search) Thursday and
escorted to a local airport. The FBI was interviewing the pilot
and a passenger, officials said.

The twin-engine Aero Commander plane was spotted flying in the
high desert north of Los Angeles for several hours during the
afternoon at about 18,000 feet and could not be identified or
contacted by the Federal Aviation Administration, agency spokesman
Donn Walker said.

The plane approached restricted air space several times and the
FAA (search) notified Western Air Defense (search), which
scrambled military jets, officials said.

The aircraft was escorted to Palmdale Airport, FBI spokeswoman
Laura Eimiller said. It wasn't immediately clear why the pilot
didn't respond or what the plane was doing near the air base.