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Old May 29th 05, 03:50 PM
Gary Drescher
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"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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"Gary Drescher" wrote:
Rather, the issue is that as the FARs are written, it violates 91.123b to
disobey an ATC instruction, except in an emergency. So if you're
instructed
to enter Class B without a clearance, you violate one FAR or another
*whether you comply or not*.


You really need to read this stuff with some common sense applied.


Sure, that's always true. My point here, though, is that common sense
doesn't resolve the conflict. We need to rely on folklore (and AIM
passages), rather than just on the regulations plus common sense. After all,
when we're driving cars, instructions from police *do* trump traffic
regulations; so it's not just "common sense" that the opposite principle
holds when flying (even though it does).

--Gary


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Old May 30th 05, 04:41 AM
Andrew Gideon
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Gary Drescher wrote:

My point here, though, is that common sense
doesn't resolve the conflict.


Near my office is a road that crosses a couple of railroad tracks. South of
the road's crossing of the tracks, there's a fence between the two tracks.
Where that fence ends, next to the road, is a sign:

Do not cross railroad tracks

Unfortunately, that sign gives every appearance of requiring that one not
follow the road (or the pedestrian way along the road) across the tracks.
Although I've not checked, I'm reasonably sure that it is supposed to mean
"cross tracks only at designated crossings".

It irks me when people that author signs - or rules - cannot do so clearly
and accurately. For what else are they being paid?

- Andrew

 




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