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Old May 29th 05, 04:00 PM
Jose
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That's because (as you acknowledge by your use of scare-quotes) there is no
actual refusal to be busted for in that case.


Ok, (and you're right - a pet peeve of mine is the overuse of quotes
like that, and there I go doing it myself)

How is this different from refusing to obey an ATC instruction that
would be impossible to follow, or would lead you into a cloud VFR?
Tower says "extend your downwind" but there's a cloud in the way. Tower
is issuing other instructions and you can't get a word in on the radio.
Fly into the cloud, you're busted. Disobey the instruction, I suspect
you would =not= be busted.

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Old May 29th 05, 04:24 PM
Gary Drescher
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"Jose" wrote in message
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That's because (as you acknowledge by your use of scare-quotes) there is
no actual refusal to be busted for in that case.


Ok, (and you're right - a pet peeve of mine is the overuse of quotes like
that, and there I go doing it myself)


Actually, I thought that was an entirely proper use of scare-quotes. (But I
agree that there's overuse when people put quotes around every metaphor or
cliche they deploy--or worse, when they think quotes connote emphasis.)

How is this different from refusing to obey an ATC instruction that would
be impossible to follow, or would lead you into a cloud VFR? Tower says
"extend your downwind" but there's a cloud in the way. Tower is issuing
other instructions and you can't get a word in on the radio.


VFR into clouds qualifies as an emergency, so the emergency-exception
provision kicks in there.

--Gary


 




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