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Old May 30th 05, 02:29 AM
Jay Honeck
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This is my one pet peeve... the "pilots" flying "modern" aircraft behind
you will go nuts trying to stay behind you.
EAA simply has to come up with a separate procedure for radio equipped
aircraft which are not capable of flying 80 kts.
In level flight in my Champ, I MAY get 80 mph/68 kts at max power!


I agree. I've been that guy, stuck behind a Champ going 80 mph, and it's,
er, interesting.

Here it is, 95 degrees, I'm flying an at-gross, under-powered Warrior, my
head's on a swivel, I'm trying to see the stupid flashing strobes on the
ground, and DANG if I'm not stuck behind a guy going 80 mph instead of 80
knots.

And here I had always assumed that they were just mis-reading the scale on
their airspeed indicator...

;-)

Luckily, nowadays, with our Pathfinder's 235 horses, slow flight behind the
power curve is much easier and safer, no matter what we're carrying -- but
it would still be nice if the Champs could use the ultralight field approach
into OSH (or one of their own)...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old May 30th 05, 03:05 AM
Kyle Boatright
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I've e-mailed both EAA/Airventure and SnF repeatedly on this topic, asking
for them to change to 70 and 110 knot approach lanes. The 70 knot approach
would be fine for the Champ/Cub/C-152/C-172 crowd, and the 110 knot approach
would work for everything else, short of corporate jets. This would keep
some poor guy in a Glasair/Lancair/Mooney/Commanche from getting stuck
behind an 80 mph airplane.

I have personal experience here, due to a Kitfox which completely blew the
join-up at SnF one year, and cut into the approach line well after line
crossed the power plant. This was bad for a couple of reasons - 1, it
created a spacing problem and 2, the Kitfox was so slow that the airplanes
it cut in front couldn't fly slow enough to get comfortable spacing.

KB


"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:B%tme.19816$g66.16952@attbi_s71...
This is my one pet peeve... the "pilots" flying "modern" aircraft behind
you will go nuts trying to stay behind you.
EAA simply has to come up with a separate procedure for radio equipped
aircraft which are not capable of flying 80 kts.
In level flight in my Champ, I MAY get 80 mph/68 kts at max power!


I agree. I've been that guy, stuck behind a Champ going 80 mph, and it's,
er, interesting.

Here it is, 95 degrees, I'm flying an at-gross, under-powered Warrior, my
head's on a swivel, I'm trying to see the stupid flashing strobes on the
ground, and DANG if I'm not stuck behind a guy going 80 mph instead of 80
knots.

And here I had always assumed that they were just mis-reading the scale on
their airspeed indicator...

;-)

Luckily, nowadays, with our Pathfinder's 235 horses, slow flight behind
the power curve is much easier and safer, no matter what we're carrying --
but it would still be nice if the Champs could use the ultralight field
approach into OSH (or one of their own)...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



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Old May 30th 05, 04:24 AM
RST Engineering
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You all will wait until hell freezes over to get both EAA-OSH and SNF to
understand about very slow and very fast airplanes in the mix until you
elect a person to the board who flies these approaches every year and has
done so for the last 35 years.

Just some thoughts, y'know.

Jim



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I've e-mailed both EAA/Airventure and SnF repeatedly on this topic, asking
for them to change to 70 and 110 knot approach lanes.



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Old May 30th 05, 05:25 AM
Jay Honeck
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You all will wait until hell freezes over to get both EAA-OSH and SNF to
understand about very slow and very fast airplanes in the mix until you
elect a person to the board who flies these approaches every year and has
done so for the last 35 years.

Just some thoughts, y'know.


Nice pic in the EAA rag this month, Jim!

You know you've got at least two votes from Iowa...

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


 




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