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Old May 31st 05, 07:18 PM
Matt Barrow
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 May 2005 14:42:05 GMT, Dave S
wrote:

I guess this is the same data gathering ability that said "Yes, Iraq had
WMD's" as well?


You aren't up to date. There never were any WMD and Bush knew it all
along as revealed by the memo that was leaked to the London Times
three weeks ago. Here's the information you missed:

*** Begin Quote ***

The memo was written by British national security aide Matthew
Rycroft, based on notes he took during a July 2002 meeting of British
Prime Minister Tony Blair and his advisers, including Richard
Dearlove, the head of Britain's MI-6 intelligence service who had
recently met with Bush administration officials.

Since being leaked to a British newspaper, the memo has raised
questions anew about whether the Bush administration misrepresented
prewar intelligence about suspected weapons of mass destruction in
Iraq to justify military action against Saddam Hussein's regime.

"Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified
by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD," the memo said. "But the
intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy. It seemed
clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if
the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not
threatening hi-bility was less than that of Libya, North Korea or
Iran."

*** End Quote ***

"Blair's offfice has not disputed the authenticity of the memo", but
the White House has of course claimed it's false.

See: http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/051705Y.shtml for the complete
story, or just google "the downing street memo", or google "memo wmd".


First, it was a memo from notes that would be considered hearsay in any
court. Second, Truthout.com is hardly an unbiased source.

It was also a memo about one persons take on what other people were
thinking. Unless the guy's a mindreader....


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Old May 31st 05, 08:13 PM
Corky Scott
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:18:49 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
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It was also a memo about one persons take on what other people were
thinking. Unless the guy's a mindreader....


Matt, you need to READ-THE-MEMO before commenting. The memo is
actually minutes of a meeting at which Tony Blair was present and
there's nothing false about it. During the meeting "C" commented on
his recent trip to Washington where he was briefed by his U.S.
intelligence counterparts. "C" is Sir Richard Dearlove who is the
head of MI6.

Since Dearlove was in Washington as the head of MI6 in order to be
briefed, it's hardly necessary for him to be a mind reader. He has to
listen to what he's told and render this information accurately to
Tony Blair.

No person in the British government is denying the accuracy of the
memo.

Frankly, I too wish it weren't so.

Corky Scott


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Old June 1st 05, 12:34 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:18:49 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:

It was also a memo about one persons take on what other people were
thinking. Unless the guy's a mindreader....


Matt, you need to READ-THE-MEMO before commenting. The memo is
actually minutes of a meeting at which Tony Blair was present and
there's nothing false about it. During the meeting "C" commented on
his recent trip to Washington where he was briefed by his U.S.
intelligence counterparts. "C" is Sir Richard Dearlove who is the
head of MI6.


Sounds like hearsay to me.


Since Dearlove was in Washington as the head of MI6 in order to be
briefed, it's hardly necessary for him to be a mind reader. He has to
listen to what he's told and render this information accurately to
Tony Blair.

No person in the British government is denying the accuracy of the
memo.

Frankly, I too wish it weren't so.

Odd, isn't it, that it's not getting any traction here, even in the left
wing press.


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Old June 1st 05, 12:36 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Tue, 31 May 2005 11:18:49 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
wrote:

It was also a memo about one persons take on what other people were
thinking. Unless the guy's a mindreader....


Matt, you need to READ-THE-MEMO before commenting. The memo is
actually minutes of a meeting at which Tony Blair was present and
there's nothing false about it. During the meeting "C" commented on
his recent trip to Washington where he was briefed by his U.S.
intelligence counterparts. "C" is Sir Richard Dearlove who is the
head of MI6.


Sounds like hearsay to me.


Since Dearlove was in Washington as the head of MI6 in order to be
briefed, it's hardly necessary for him to be a mind reader. He has to
listen to what he's told and render this information accurately to
Tony Blair.

No person in the British government is denying the accuracy of the
memo.

Frankly, I too wish it weren't so.

Odd, isn't it, that it's not getting any traction here, even in the left
wing press.

One last thing: this all sounds very much like the Joe Clark episode.


 




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