Light Sport Aircraft survey

Lakeview Bill wrote:

A lack of time for research is the reason that I didn't reply to this...

From what I have read, an airplane must be certified for IFR, either from
the factory, or in the field. And it must have periodic inspections to
insure IFR certification. Again, this is just what I believe I have read.

But keep in mind that Light Sport Aircraft are not certificated in the same
manner as other aircraft. I doubt that there is even an IFR certification
available for a Light Sport Aircraft.


If a plane is IFR rated, a sprot pile it may fly it fine, just not use
most of the gauges and stuff,,,,,,

the sprot pile it is limited, not the plane,,,,

however there are weight limits, seating, etc,

so an IFR plane may weigh too much, have complex controls, retracts,
that would preclude the sprot pile it from flying it even under the
sprot rules,,,,,,,,,

--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

Rick Pellicciotti wrote:

Montblack wrote:

("Rick Pellicciotti" wrote)

Following the conventions of this group, I won't mention the airplane
I sell or the prices. If you are interested, email me off the group
and I will send you details.



It's not spam (IMHO) if the post is requested ...it's hangar talk. g

Post your plane's link and tell us what's special about it - and don't
forget those prices ($$$$$). Many interested people here. Be prepared
for some, um, feedback :-)

Will it, and you, be at Oshkosh?


Montblack

Sorry to take so long to respond to your post. I have been in Romania,
at the factory, taking delivery of our first two aircraft. Yes, we will
be at Airventure, display #39 and we will also have an airplane in the
"Light Sport Aircraft Mall".

Our airplane is the "Festival", manufactured by Aerostar S.A. of
Romania. Aerostar is the same company that builds the famous Yak52 that
I am sure many of you have seen at airshows and aerobatic competitions.

Festival is all-metal, and has side-by-side seating for two people. The
cockpit is 42" wide. The standard engine is the Rotax 912ULS, 100hp.
The airplane has a lot of small features that we think are important to
the owner such as locking gas caps and canopy, seats that adjust easily
and a large baggage compartment. The airplane has built-in, structural
roll-over protection. A lot of airplanes with canopies do not have
that. The biggest thing that we have done is that we have worked with
Aerostar to "americanize" the airplane. All parts that are subject to
wearing out or breaking such as brakes, wheels , tires, instruments and
avionics are all of American manufacture and can be sourced readily from
the usual places.

Aerostar is JAR21 and ISO9000 certified. They do sub-contract work for
Boeing and Airbus. They have about 2100 employees. Absolutley great to
work with and they build great airplanes. In the course of doing the
structural tests as required by the ASTM standards, they actually tested
one airframe to destruction. The standard requires 150% load at 4g's.
The airplane did 182%.

More details on our website at http://www.lightsportflying.com
Constructive suggestions are more than welcome.

Rick


Will you be offering a model for initial sport pilot training ?
--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

Jim,
I appreciate your comments. Obviously, we think the airplane is a
winner or we would have bought a different one. Would you mind
expanding on your comment a bit? I don't have any experience with the
Jabaru but I have flown a lot of airplanes with the 4-stroke, Rotax.
In one form, it is a FAR33 certified engine. I hear people make
comments like yours and I wonder what the reasoning is behind it. I
have found the 912 to be a good engine.

What engine would you prefer? We could put a O-200-LS in the airplane
but it would cost about $6,000.00 more and your useful load would drop
to 460 pounds. Fuel consumption would go up about a gallon per hour.
In 1600 hours of personal flying, the only in-flight engine failure I
ever experienced was on a Continental engine.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

Mark,
We think Festival will make an excellent trainer. The landing gear is
very rugged. The visibility is great. I have flown the airplane from
both seats and it is easy to fly. The airplane is quiet enough that
you can talk between each other without headsets. We even offer an
optional, left-hand throttle for the pilot position. This allows both
the pilot and instructor to fly with their left hand on the throttle
and right hand on the stick.

Flight schools will like the airplane because it is easy to inspect and
maintain. All consumable items are available off the shelf from US
suppliers.

We would love to have you and other flight schools that are interested
in the airplane to come down to Memphis and see it once it gets here.
We will be at Airventure, display #39.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

Dylan Smith wrote:

In article , Lakeview Bill wrote:

Just out of curiosity, why do you dislike the Rotax?


I would suspect lack of support from local GA facilities - the 4 stroke
Rotaxes and the Jabiru are not particularly common in the US so few
mechanics will be familiar with them. Other than that, they are decent
reliable engines.


Those engines seem to have a bad reputation in the U.S. They are seen
as cheapo engines for people who can't afford "real" engines from cont
or lyc. One flight school I know of had diamond katanas with Rotax
engines and only got 900 hours out of them despite regular use. I don't
know how typical that is, but you often hear stories like that. Maybe
it's the Avgas we use over here (it certainly isn't good for small
continentals either, but like you said those can be fixed by just about
anyone). Not having owned or maintained an engine myself I don't know
but I do know their reputation is not good here. For example one of the
new companies (I think it was Liberty) was initially going to use a
Rotax and got no interest, changed to a Continental and now are taken
more seriously.

Ron,
First of all, let me say that I really enjoy your writings. I have
found them most informative over the years.

The airplanes have just completed certification in Romania and they
will be here in a couple of weeks. At that time, our local FSDO along
with our DAR will work on finishing up the S-LSA certification. We
haven't quite gotten it done but we expect to have the certification in
hand in time for Airventure.

We would have it done by now because we had built the airplane for the
proposed 1232 pound weight limit. When the final rule came out, we
made the business decision to re-engineer the airplane for 1350 pounds
and we had to build new prototypes for testing. We finished testing
the new prototypes last week (one was tested to destruction) and the
first two production airplanes have flown. Hopefully, it won't be long
now.

I realize that the website says it is a Special Light Sport Aircraft,
sold ready to fly. That is our intent. We put it on the web site that
way so that people could easily understand that it is not a kit.
Having been around since the BD-5 debacle, we haven't taken anyone's
money and we won't until the certification is done. We have allowed a
couple of people that wanted to be at the head of the line to setup
escrow accounts at their own banks and put deposits in them that they
control. In return, we have reserved production spots for them.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

rpellicciotti wrote:

Mark,
We think Festival will make an excellent trainer. The landing gear is
very rugged. The visibility is great. I have flown the airplane from
both seats and it is easy to fly. The airplane is quiet enough that
you can talk between each other without headsets. We even offer an
optional, left-hand throttle for the pilot position. This allows both
the pilot and instructor to fly with their left hand on the throttle
and right hand on the stick.

Flight schools will like the airplane because it is easy to inspect and
maintain. All consumable items are available off the shelf from US
suppliers.

We would love to have you and other flight schools that are interested
in the airplane to come down to Memphis and see it once it gets here.
We will be at Airventure, display #39.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

It's just that it flies too fast for basic sprot training,,,,,,,,

87 knots is the max flat out speed for a trainer.

a sign off after you are sprot certified may be obtained for the faster
plane,,,,,

--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

Mark,
You have two options here. You can ground adjust the prop to limit the
speed or you can simply endorse your student for the required higher
speed training prior to solo. At least that is what I am told by the
folks I have talked with at EAA and FAA.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
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rpellicciotti wrote:

Mark,
We think Festival will make an excellent trainer. The landing gear is
very rugged. The visibility is great. I have flown the airplane from
both seats and it is easy to fly. The airplane is quiet enough that
you can talk between each other without headsets. We even offer an
optional, left-hand throttle for the pilot position. This allows both
the pilot and instructor to fly with their left hand on the throttle
and right hand on the stick.

Flight schools will like the airplane because it is easy to inspect and
maintain. All consumable items are available off the shelf from US
suppliers.

We would love to have you and other flight schools that are interested
in the airplane to come down to Memphis and see it once it gets here.
We will be at Airventure, display #39.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

It's just that it flies too fast for basic sprot training,,,,,,,,

87 knots is the max flat out speed for a trainer.

a sign off after you are sprot certified may be obtained for the faster
plane,,,,,

--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com



Mark what are you talking about? Where exactly is that in the regs?

Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe it
was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


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Mark what are you talking about? Where exactly is that in the regs?