Light Sport Aircraft survey

Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe it
was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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Mark what are you talking about? Where exactly is that in the regs?

W P Dixon wrote:

Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe it
was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe

Patrick
student SPL


how do you do a cross country in a plane you are not signed off on ?

or is all the sprot pile it training dual ?

--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

Mark,
I believe it will work the same as getting a PPL. A PPL has to have a sign
off while a student in order to solo different planes. I believe you are
trying to make sport "pile" as you call it more complicated than what it is
...just because you don't like it.
There is a sport pilot place up in MASS. that is doing it's training in
Ercoupe's , which is alittle faster than the "high speed" cutoff Sounds
funny calling it a high speed cut off doesn't it! Evidently people are
soloing,..getting the endorsement to solo and soloing the Ercoupe.
I would imagine you can get an endorsement for it anyway, look at the
places that give PPL's taildragger endorsements with no solo , because of
insurance.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
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W P Dixon wrote:

Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe
it
was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe

Patrick
student SPL


how do you do a cross country in a plane you are not signed off on ?

or is all the sprot pile it training dual ?

--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

W P Dixon wrote:

Mark,
I believe it will work the same as getting a PPL. A PPL has to have a sign
off while a student in order to solo different planes. I believe you are
trying to make sport "pile" as you call it more complicated than what it is
..just because you don't like it.
There is a sport pilot place up in MASS. that is doing it's training in
Ercoupe's , which is alittle faster than the "high speed" cutoff Sounds
funny calling it a high speed cut off doesn't it! Evidently people are
soloing,..getting the endorsement to solo and soloing the Ercoupe.
I would imagine you can get an endorsement for it anyway, look at the
places that give PPL's taildragger endorsements with no solo , because of
insurance.

Patrick
student SPL


A friend has noted that this stupid provision in the proposed rule was
eliminated after almost everyone thought it was stupid,

again, written by folks who don't fly much about planes hey don't fly at
all,

but now you are saying students may take lessons in a plane that exceeds
the higher upper limit ?

I quit,,,,,,
--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

but now you are saying students may take lessons in a plane that exceeds
the higher upper limit ?

I quit,,,,,,


You can take lessons in anything that allows commercial operation or that
you own! The limitation is you can't solo in something exceeding SP
criteria unless you have a medical. Any lesson you take for PPL counts for
SP as far as time etc. it's just the practical and written test are
different (and number of hours).
So if you want you can do all your duel in a Cessna 150 (or 210P ;-) ). But
when you come to solo you will need a SP legal plane and a sign off.
Possibly even a single seater if your cfi is willing to sign you off! ;-0
John

Yep,
I have time in Cherokee 140, Warrior, and Aeronca Champs...all on the
way to getting my sport pilot! Ain't life grand!!! But I will have to solo
and take the check ride in something "sport pilot" rated. But I am sure
after the dual in faster planes the sign off for the "speedsters" in my
class will not be a problem. And hey I don't have to fly a weedeater!!!!
Embrace it Mark and you may have some fun with it,...and you may actually
make some money in it as well if you buy a few sport planes to rent out!
Heck I drove over 5 hours to fly a Champ, and am fixing to drive 7 to fly
another one and a Cub.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"UltraJohn" wrote in message
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but now you are saying students may take lessons in a plane that exceeds
the higher upper limit ?

I quit,,,,,,


You can take lessons in anything that allows commercial operation or that
you own! The limitation is you can't solo in something exceeding SP
criteria unless you have a medical. Any lesson you take for PPL counts for
SP as far as time etc. it's just the practical and written test are
different (and number of hours).
So if you want you can do all your duel in a Cessna 150 (or 210P ;-) ).
But
when you come to solo you will need a SP legal plane and a sign off.
Possibly even a single seater if your cfi is willing to sign you off! ;-0
John

"UltraJohn" wrote

The limitation is you can't solo in something exceeding SP
criteria unless you have a medical. Any lesson you take for PPL counts for
SP as far as time etc.

So if you want you can do all your duel in a Cessna 150 (or 210P ;-) ).
But
when you come to solo you will need a SP legal plane and a sign off.
Possibly even a single seater if your cfi is willing to sign you off! ;-0

That is the first time I have heard that, but it makes sense. Where did you
get this information?
--
Jim in NC

Your right about that Patrick but the original post claimed that there was
some reason a faster LSA couldn't be used for training of a new sport pilot.
That just isn't the case.


"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe
it was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe


Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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Mark what are you talking about? Where exactly is that in the regs?