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Old June 1st 05, 06:33 PM
Mark Smith
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Rick Pellicciotti wrote:

Montblack wrote:

("Rick Pellicciotti" wrote)

Following the conventions of this group, I won't mention the airplane
I sell or the prices. If you are interested, email me off the group
and I will send you details.




It's not spam (IMHO) if the post is requested ...it's hangar talk. g

Post your plane's link and tell us what's special about it - and don't
forget those prices ($$$$$). Many interested people here. Be prepared
for some, um, feedback :-)

Will it, and you, be at Oshkosh?


Montblack


Sorry to take so long to respond to your post. I have been in Romania,
at the factory, taking delivery of our first two aircraft. Yes, we will
be at Airventure, display #39 and we will also have an airplane in the
"Light Sport Aircraft Mall".

Our airplane is the "Festival", manufactured by Aerostar S.A. of
Romania. Aerostar is the same company that builds the famous Yak52 that
I am sure many of you have seen at airshows and aerobatic competitions.

Festival is all-metal, and has side-by-side seating for two people. The
cockpit is 42" wide. The standard engine is the Rotax 912ULS, 100hp.
The airplane has a lot of small features that we think are important to
the owner such as locking gas caps and canopy, seats that adjust easily
and a large baggage compartment. The airplane has built-in, structural
roll-over protection. A lot of airplanes with canopies do not have
that. The biggest thing that we have done is that we have worked with
Aerostar to "americanize" the airplane. All parts that are subject to
wearing out or breaking such as brakes, wheels , tires, instruments and
avionics are all of American manufacture and can be sourced readily from
the usual places.

Aerostar is JAR21 and ISO9000 certified. They do sub-contract work for
Boeing and Airbus. They have about 2100 employees. Absolutley great to
work with and they build great airplanes. In the course of doing the
structural tests as required by the ASTM standards, they actually tested
one airframe to destruction. The standard requires 150% load at 4g's.
The airplane did 182%.

More details on our website at http://www.lightsportflying.com
Constructive suggestions are more than welcome.

Rick



Will you be offering a model for initial sport pilot training ?
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1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
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Old June 1st 05, 07:50 PM
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Mark,
We think Festival will make an excellent trainer. The landing gear is
very rugged. The visibility is great. I have flown the airplane from
both seats and it is easy to fly. The airplane is quiet enough that
you can talk between each other without headsets. We even offer an
optional, left-hand throttle for the pilot position. This allows both
the pilot and instructor to fly with their left hand on the throttle
and right hand on the stick.

Flight schools will like the airplane because it is easy to inspect and
maintain. All consumable items are available off the shelf from US
suppliers.

We would love to have you and other flight schools that are interested
in the airplane to come down to Memphis and see it once it gets here.
We will be at Airventure, display #39.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

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Old June 1st 05, 08:37 PM
Mark Smith
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rpellicciotti wrote:

Mark,
We think Festival will make an excellent trainer. The landing gear is
very rugged. The visibility is great. I have flown the airplane from
both seats and it is easy to fly. The airplane is quiet enough that
you can talk between each other without headsets. We even offer an
optional, left-hand throttle for the pilot position. This allows both
the pilot and instructor to fly with their left hand on the throttle
and right hand on the stick.

Flight schools will like the airplane because it is easy to inspect and
maintain. All consumable items are available off the shelf from US
suppliers.

We would love to have you and other flight schools that are interested
in the airplane to come down to Memphis and see it once it gets here.
We will be at Airventure, display #39.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com


It's just that it flies too fast for basic sprot training,,,,,,,,

87 knots is the max flat out speed for a trainer.

a sign off after you are sprot certified may be obtained for the faster
plane,,,,,

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Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

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Old June 1st 05, 08:52 PM
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Mark,
You have two options here. You can ground adjust the prop to limit the
speed or you can simply endorse your student for the required higher
speed training prior to solo. At least that is what I am told by the
folks I have talked with at EAA and FAA.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com

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Old June 2nd 05, 12:03 AM
Mark Smith
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rpellicciotti wrote:

Mark,
You have two options here. You can ground adjust the prop to limit the
speed or you can simply endorse your student for the required higher
speed training prior to solo. At least that is what I am told by the
folks I have talked with at EAA and FAA.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com


I've asked around, and it seems solo in the faster plane isn't mpossible
until you have a signoff for the faster plane,

and the signoff is only given to sport pilots,,,,,,,,,,not students

not sure what the deal is,

i thought this was stupid from the gitgo,

obviously, the FnAA has backed down or is mistaken,

again, sport pile it, written by those who don't fly much about planes
they don't fly at all !

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Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

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Old June 1st 05, 09:26 PM
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"Mark Smith" wrote in message
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rpellicciotti wrote:

Mark,
We think Festival will make an excellent trainer. The landing gear is
very rugged. The visibility is great. I have flown the airplane from
both seats and it is easy to fly. The airplane is quiet enough that
you can talk between each other without headsets. We even offer an
optional, left-hand throttle for the pilot position. This allows both
the pilot and instructor to fly with their left hand on the throttle
and right hand on the stick.

Flight schools will like the airplane because it is easy to inspect and
maintain. All consumable items are available off the shelf from US
suppliers.

We would love to have you and other flight schools that are interested
in the airplane to come down to Memphis and see it once it gets here.
We will be at Airventure, display #39.

Regards,

Rick Pellicciotti
Belle Aire Aviation
LightSportFlying.com


It's just that it flies too fast for basic sprot training,,,,,,,,

87 knots is the max flat out speed for a trainer.

a sign off after you are sprot certified may be obtained for the faster
plane,,,,,

--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com



Mark what are you talking about? Where exactly is that in the regs?


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Old June 1st 05, 10:10 PM
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Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe it
was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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Mark what are you talking about? Where exactly is that in the regs?



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Old June 2nd 05, 12:04 AM
Mark Smith
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W P Dixon wrote:

Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe it
was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe

Patrick
student SPL



how do you do a cross country in a plane you are not signed off on ?

or is all the sprot pile it training dual ?

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Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com

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Old June 2nd 05, 01:11 AM
W P Dixon
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Mark,
I believe it will work the same as getting a PPL. A PPL has to have a sign
off while a student in order to solo different planes. I believe you are
trying to make sport "pile" as you call it more complicated than what it is
...just because you don't like it.
There is a sport pilot place up in MASS. that is doing it's training in
Ercoupe's , which is alittle faster than the "high speed" cutoff Sounds
funny calling it a high speed cut off doesn't it! Evidently people are
soloing,..getting the endorsement to solo and soloing the Ercoupe.
I would imagine you can get an endorsement for it anyway, look at the
places that give PPL's taildragger endorsements with no solo , because of
insurance.

Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech

"Mark Smith" wrote in message
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W P Dixon wrote:

Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe
it
was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe

Patrick
student SPL



how do you do a cross country in a plane you are not signed off on ?

or is all the sprot pile it training dual ?

--
Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620
1-812-838-6351
http://www.trikite.com


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Old June 2nd 05, 02:39 PM
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Your right about that Patrick but the original post claimed that there was
some reason a faster LSA couldn't be used for training of a new sport pilot.
That just isn't the case.


"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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Gig 601,
Check out FAR 61.327 , you will find it there. Of course if you are
trining in a plane already faster, it's really no big deal. I think maybe
it was put in there to keep ultralighters from just hopping in a Luscombe


Patrick
student SPL
aircraft structural mech


"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
news:GRone.21384$DC2.15030@okepread01...


Mark what are you talking about? Where exactly is that in the regs?





 




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