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"Chip Jones" writes:
Just curious David. Do Canadian pilots flying VFR largely have to use ATC service, or can you guys just do the squawk VFR thing and fly willy nilly around Canada without talking to ATC? We are required to file a flight plan or flight itinerary for any VFR flight beyond 25 nm, but a flight itinerary is as simple as telling someone where you're going and asking them to call 911 within 24 hours if you don't show up -- that makes sense for a big, mostly-empty country like ours. Also, all of our airways (and all other controlled airspace) automatically changes to class B at 12,500 ft. Our control zones top about around 3000 ft AGL like yours, but our terminal areas extend right up to the flight levels, so you cannot overfly Toronto at 10,000 ft without talking to ATC, the way that you can overfly New York. Otherwise, though, we're pretty much the same. We have very little restricted airspace (they've even reduced the temporary restriction over our Parliament buildings to 1500 ft and 0.25 nm radius, and that doesn't apply to IFR approaches or departures), and we have a *lot* more class G than you have, so much so that we even have standard transponder codes for uncontrolled IFR (!!), which is common in the north. Just to put that in context, our fees have shot up by about CAD 5.00 (USD 3.50) for next year. As I mentioned before, it's a different situation for the airlines, but it's hard to argue that the fees have any effect on G.A. But when (not if) GA user fees in Canada go up again, what can the Canadian GA pilot do about it? That is a real risk -- we're all vulnerable to the whims of our elected politicians and public opinion. For example, we don't have any property or use taxes on aircraft in Canada, while you guys have to deal with them in quite a few states. Likewise, we rarely have anything like your TFR's, and we don't have a lot of security paranoia. In the end, we have to rely on our advocacy groups just like you do. So far, COPA has been very effective -- the fees were originally supposed to be several times higher, and COPA successfully beat them down to about the cost of a half tank of fuel for my Warrior, and they keep on fighting every tiny rise now. Personally, I wouldn't object to paying more, but then, I use ATS a lot, flying out of a busy class C airport inside a class D terminal area -- I can see how a farmer with a Cub in her barn would be ****ed off. If we privatize ATC down here, the corporations that are going to be running the show will *not* care a whit about GA or BA. That depends on how you privatise it -- I understand that those of you fighting to keep the public system don't want to give up quite yet, but there may come a point that you want to get involved on the inside to make sure that any new private system is a reasonable one like ours, and not the worst-case scenario dominated by a few big users, like you're suggesting. In Canada, the airlines pay most of the cost of ATS, but small planes get equal service, just as in the U.S. I often land with two or three airliners waiting for me, or have commuters or jets slow down behind me while I'm on an approach. If you end up with something like that, life won't be too bad. Now, if we're done talking about privatizing ATS, let's talk about socializing your medicine ... (just joking). All the best, David |
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![]() David Megginson wrote: We are required to file a flight plan or flight itinerary for any VFR flight beyond 25 nm, but a flight itinerary is as simple as telling someone where you're going and asking them to call 911 within 24 hours if you don't show up -- that makes sense for a big, mostly-empty country like ours. So. If I call my mother up and tell here I'm flying down and please call out the dogs if I don't show up by 9, does that constitute "filing a flight itinerary", or must this be filed with the authorities? George Patterson A friend will help you move. A really good friend will help you move the body. |
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"G.R. Patterson III" writes:
We are required to file a flight plan or flight itinerary for any VFR flight beyond 25 nm, but a flight itinerary is as simple as telling someone where you're going and asking them to call 911 within 24 hours if you don't show up -- that makes sense for a big, mostly-empty country like ours. So. If I call my mother up and tell here I'm flying down and please call out the dogs if I don't show up by 9, does that constitute "filing a flight itinerary", or must this be filed with the authorities? No, that's about it -- you might also need to tell your mother what the airports you're flying from and to. All the best, David |
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