A aviation & planes forum. AviationBanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » AviationBanter forum » rec.aviation newsgroups » Instrument Flight Rules
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

AOPA and ATC Privatization



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old September 5th 03, 10:16 PM
Dennis O'Connor
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

ATC fee for providing separation for each aircraft should definitely be
charged to each aircraft... The charge should be some tiny percentage of the
gross revenue earned on that flight ... Lets pick a multiplier, say 0.001..

Assume 300 passengers paying an average $300 ticket = $90,000 for KORD to
KDFT... times 0.001 = $90 that ABC Airlines sends to the feds... (actually
it is easier than that... Quarterly, ABC Airline sends 0.001 of it's gross
revenue and you don't have to fool with tracking routes)

Now, Joe Schmuk flying his Whizbanger Four flies the same route... Gross
revenue for the flight = $0.00... times 0.001.. Charge = $0.00

Seems fair to me...

Denny
" It costs the same
to separate a 747 from a 172 as it does to separate the 172 from the 747.
Obviously the 747 is paying a lot more for the service than the 172. The
airlines want to change this and the 172 owner (and Gulfstream owner)

wants
to keep it the same as it is now.



  #2  
Old September 6th 03, 12:15 AM
Mike Rapoport
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Why should the charge for the same service be different for different
customers?

Mike
MU-2


"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
...
ATC fee for providing separation for each aircraft should definitely be
charged to each aircraft... The charge should be some tiny percentage of

the
gross revenue earned on that flight ... Lets pick a multiplier, say

0.001..

Assume 300 passengers paying an average $300 ticket = $90,000 for KORD to
KDFT... times 0.001 = $90 that ABC Airlines sends to the feds...

(actually
it is easier than that... Quarterly, ABC Airline sends 0.001 of it's gross
revenue and you don't have to fool with tracking routes)

Now, Joe Schmuk flying his Whizbanger Four flies the same route... Gross
revenue for the flight = $0.00... times 0.001.. Charge = $0.00

Seems fair to me...

Denny
" It costs the same
to separate a 747 from a 172 as it does to separate the 172 from the

747.
Obviously the 747 is paying a lot more for the service than the 172.

The
airlines want to change this and the 172 owner (and Gulfstream owner)

wants
to keep it the same as it is now.





  #3  
Old September 6th 03, 02:34 AM
John Clonts
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Because price is set more directly by value to the consumer than by cost to
the producer-- free enterprise 101.

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
.net...
Why should the charge for the same service be different for different
customers?

Mike
MU-2


"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
...
ATC fee for providing separation for each aircraft should definitely be
charged to each aircraft... The charge should be some tiny percentage of

the
gross revenue earned on that flight ... Lets pick a multiplier, say

0.001..

Assume 300 passengers paying an average $300 ticket = $90,000 for KORD

to
KDFT... times 0.001 = $90 that ABC Airlines sends to the feds...

(actually
it is easier than that... Quarterly, ABC Airline sends 0.001 of it's

gross
revenue and you don't have to fool with tracking routes)

Now, Joe Schmuk flying his Whizbanger Four flies the same route... Gross
revenue for the flight = $0.00... times 0.001.. Charge = $0.00

Seems fair to me...

Denny
" It costs the same
to separate a 747 from a 172 as it does to separate the 172 from the

747.
Obviously the 747 is paying a lot more for the service than the 172.

The
airlines want to change this and the 172 owner (and Gulfstream owner)

wants
to keep it the same as it is now.







  #4  
Old September 6th 03, 03:38 PM
Mike Rapoport
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

User fees cannot discriminate by ability to pay.

Mike
MU-2


"John Clonts" wrote in message
...
Because price is set more directly by value to the consumer than by cost

to
the producer-- free enterprise 101.

Cheers,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas

"Mike Rapoport" wrote in message
.net...
Why should the charge for the same service be different for different
customers?

Mike
MU-2


"Dennis O'Connor" wrote in message
...
ATC fee for providing separation for each aircraft should definitely

be
charged to each aircraft... The charge should be some tiny percentage

of
the
gross revenue earned on that flight ... Lets pick a multiplier, say

0.001..

Assume 300 passengers paying an average $300 ticket = $90,000 for KORD

to
KDFT... times 0.001 = $90 that ABC Airlines sends to the feds...

(actually
it is easier than that... Quarterly, ABC Airline sends 0.001 of it's

gross
revenue and you don't have to fool with tracking routes)

Now, Joe Schmuk flying his Whizbanger Four flies the same route...

Gross
revenue for the flight = $0.00... times 0.001.. Charge = $0.00

Seems fair to me...

Denny
" It costs the same
to separate a 747 from a 172 as it does to separate the 172 from the

747.
Obviously the 747 is paying a lot more for the service than the 172.

The
airlines want to change this and the 172 owner (and Gulfstream

owner)
wants
to keep it the same as it is now.








 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:46 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 AviationBanter.
The comments are property of their posters.