Suggested Lunch Stops "Near" Washington, D.C.?

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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1. Bedford, PA (KMHZ) is just 35 minutes from Dulles.
2. Cumberland, MD (KCBE) is just 30 minutes from Dulles
3. Martinsburg, WV (KMRB) is just 15 minutes from Dulles

I seem to recall somebody once talking about the food at Bedford, but I've
never been. Here's a (dated) link talking about the restaurant at KMRB:
http://archives.his.com/dcpilots-l/2.../msg00272.html

I don't recall anything about KCBE. Like Michelle, I think the restaurant
at Frederick is OK and is just a short hop away.

Also, I have just started researching this ADIZ flight plan stuff. One
fellow who wrote me off-line referred to "VOR gateways" into the
ADIZ, which implies that there are set "routes" via VORs through the
ADIZ into Dulles. Is this correct, or (once I've been assigned a
discrete squawk code and have my ADIZ flight plan activated) can I
fly GPS direct from the point where I enter the ADIZ straight into
Dulles?

I haven't heard of them called "VOR gateways", but I have heard of them as
"VFR gates". Basically, they're a set of intersections for traffic
to/from the ADIZ from various points of the the compass rose. I fly from
KJYO and haven't had any problems with flight plans to/from MRB (the VOR
about four miles from the field), Winchester (KOKV) or Frederick (FDK). The
real reason for these intersections is so the correct controller position at
Potomac TRACON gets your P-strip. If you're coming from the North, I'd say
start with Frederick.

VFR in the ADIZ is still VFR - especially on busy VMC days. On slower days,
the ADIZ controller will be on a radar station and may provide unsolicited
radar services as a bonus, but plan for "own navigation".

The answer to "direct to KIAD from ADIZ point of entry" depends entirely on
your point of entry. Entering the ADIZ from the North and points
West-to-South should provide no problem. Try that from points East, though
and you'll find Atlas painted red-red-green (or painted with fire-control
radar).

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The answer to "direct to KIAD from ADIZ point of entry" depends entirely
on your point of entry. Entering the ADIZ from the North and points
West-to-South should provide no problem. Try that from points East,
though and you'll find Atlas painted red-red-green (or painted with
fire-control radar).

The bad thing is, my teenage son is MOST excited about the chance of seeing
an F-16 "up close"... something I desperately hope to avoid.

;-)

Of course, this is the same kid who wants to bring a bail of hay, buy some
bib overalls, and start chewing tobacco for our day on display, just so we
don't disappoint everyone's expectations of what an Iowan Family should look
like!

And my 11 year-old daughter is no better. Last night we were flying home
from a "$100 pie ala mode" at sunset. It was absolutely beautiful, and we
were all in quiet reverie, hovering effortlessly thousands of feet over the
darkening landscape, when her voice came over the intercom: "Dad? Do I
have to lie to everyone at the museum about how flying is fun after the
first nine years?"

:-)
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
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www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

Of course, this is the same kid who wants to bring a bail of hay, buy
some bib overalls, and start chewing tobacco for our day on display,
just so we don't disappoint everyone's expectations of what an Iowan
Family should look like!

I know the feeling. Of course, having an Southern accent can be useful
sometimes, too.

I'm hoping to make it out to Udvar-Hazy sometime Saturday. Anybody else
looking to be there (either as guest or participant)?

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John T wrote:


I'm hoping to make it out to Udvar-Hazy sometime Saturday. Anybody else
looking to be there (either as guest or participant)?


Ron and I will be on the ramp all day long.

Margy

On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 01:13:39 -0400, "John T" wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:3%Loe.18960$_o.12925@attbi_s71

1. Bedford, PA (KMHZ) is just 35 minutes from Dulles.
2. Cumberland, MD (KCBE) is just 30 minutes from Dulles
3. Martinsburg, WV (KMRB) is just 15 minutes from Dulles

I seem to recall somebody once talking about the food at Bedford, but I've
never been. Here's a (dated) link talking about the restaurant at KMRB:
http://archives.his.com/dcpilots-l/2.../msg00272.html

As the referenced person in the post, I'll throw in that when I got to
the MRB restaurant on that day, it was closed, even though I called
somewhat in advance (earlier that week?) to check.

I don't know if it's just me and this area and my luck, but all of the
airfield restaurants for me are hit and miss as far as finding them
open.

Cumberland is I think actually very close to the actual town of
Cumberland, MD, which is kind of tourist-trappy, so you'll probably
find stuff in town easily enough. Never been to Bedford myself,
though.

Also, I have just started researching this ADIZ flight plan stuff. One
fellow who wrote me off-line referred to "VOR gateways" into the
ADIZ, which implies that there are set "routes" via VORs through the
ADIZ into Dulles. Is this correct, or (once I've been assigned a
discrete squawk code and have my ADIZ flight plan activated) can I
fly GPS direct from the point where I enter the ADIZ straight into
Dulles?

I think everyone else already answered this, but ATC doesn't really
care exactly where you enter. They only need an 'entry point' to get
your strip to the right sector - Chesapeake (BWI), Mount
Vernon(DCA/ADW), or Shenandoah (IAD). Once it gets to the right
sector, just check out the class B frequences on your TAC and call the
right one - if you have the wrong one they'll just tell you who to
contact. As long as you're on the right 'end' of the Class B, they
don't care one whit. But do try to fly (mostly) direct once entering
to your landing, you will probably get a call if you go completely the
wrong way. Outside the B, inside the ADIZ, (mostly) free flight.
Inside the B, just like any othe B anywhere else.

I unfortunately won't be able to be in town for this event - I had
previous plans for the weekend!

aw