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![]() "Ben Hallert" wrote Please clarify, are you holding the ADIZ pilots up as examples of people who did things as they _should_? No, not at all. The poster said everyone should know where every VOR is along their flight. Kinda obvious that many pilots are not nearly that competant, since the ADIZ pilots could not handle anything as obvious as Washington. I would bet that they also had no clue of the VOR's around. I ask because the poster said that transients SHOULD know where the VORs are. I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I'd argue that you bolstered his argument. Perhaps everyone should, but reality says many do not. It seems that the ADIZ violators demonstrated that aspects of their navigation were not as precise as they 'should' be. Without a doubt. They are just two that got caught. Think of how many out there don't do anything so obvious, to get caught. -- Jim in NC |
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![]() "Morgans" wrote in message ... No, not at all. The poster said everyone should know where every VOR is along their flight. No poster said anything like that in this discussion. |
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![]() "Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message news ![]() "Morgans" wrote in message ... No, not at all. The poster said everyone should know where every VOR is along their flight. Seems to me, that is implied. If you were buzzing along, and someone made a call, positioning himself at a VOR, you would need to know where it was, to know if it was important to you, right? How would you know, if you did not know where the VOR's along your flight were? -- Jim in NC No poster said anything like that in this discussion. |
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Morgans wrote:
Seems to me, that is implied. Doesn't seem implied to me at all. The original postulations involved multiple aircraft approaching to land at an airport. That is a situation in which several aircraft are known to be at the same altitude on courses which are more or less converging. Knowing the location of the applicable VOR will tell you approximately how close to converging those courses are. It's a *real* stretch to say the same thing about cruise flight. George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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![]() "George Patterson" wrote Doesn't seem implied to me at all. It's a *real* stretch to say the same thing about cruise flight. I guess that depends somewhat on altitude and location of the cruiser. Ahh, the old odd problem of interpretation. Doesn't really matter who is right or wrong, only that multiple people reading the same information, see a different thing. Happens all the time. I guess that is why lawyers are still around. :-) -- Jim in NC |
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![]() "Morgans" wrote in message ... Seems to me, that is implied. It may seem that way to you, but it isn't that way. If you were buzzing along, and someone made a call, positioning himself at a VOR, you would need to know where it was, to know if it was important to you, right? Well, if you're a competent pilot you'll know where it is so that's not a problem. But if you're a competent pilot you don't buzz along over airports at traffic pattern altitudes so that's not an issue. How is it you'd hear these calls anyway? |
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Morgans wrote:
Kinda obvious that many pilots are not nearly that competant, since the ADIZ pilots could not handle anything as obvious as Washington. I would bet that they also had no clue of the VOR's around. There's every indication that they had a fair idea of where they were and intended to be there. They just didn't know they weren't allowed to run the VFR corridor anymore. They were only a little off course for that. George Patterson Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry, and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing? Because she smells like a new truck. |
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