Rolling a Non Aerobat 150

Matt Whiting wrote:
Some of us actually like to use our brain. Flying in IMC is a great
exercise of the brain. Also, 3 hours in the clouds in an airplane beats
8 hours in a car in the rain any day! :-)


Or swimming for a month. It takes a long time to swim to the islands.

Frankly, at whatever point you decide to use aviation as a tool rather than just
entertainment, it behooves you to make it reliable. That just isn't possible in
an all-VFR world.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
. ..
Matt Whiting wrote:
Some of us actually like to use our brain. Flying in IMC is a great
exercise of the brain. Also, 3 hours in the clouds in an airplane beats
8 hours in a car in the rain any day! :-)


Or swimming for a month. It takes a long time to swim to the islands.

Frankly, at whatever point you decide to use aviation as a tool rather
than just
entertainment, it behooves you to make it reliable. That just isn't
possible in
an all-VFR world.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

I hope to never fall into that trap. Single engine, single pilot IFR in the
clag is not my definition of reliable or desirable transportation. Anything
beyond that means you are mostly a button pushing knob twisting passenger.
Not much brain activity required and horribly boring.

Dave Stadt wrote:
I hope to never fall into that trap. Single engine, single pilot IFR in the
clag is not my definition of reliable or desirable transportation. Anything
beyond that means you are mostly a button pushing knob twisting passenger.
Not much brain activity required and horribly boring.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Spoken as a true know-nothing. If there's one thing single
pilot IFR isn't, it's boring. You're not flying in a video game; you're flying
in real weather.

I hate to be harsh but your statements bring it out of me.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
news
Dave Stadt wrote:
I hope to never fall into that trap. Single engine, single pilot IFR in
the
clag is not my definition of reliable or desirable transportation.
Anything
beyond that means you are mostly a button pushing knob twisting
passenger.
Not much brain activity required and horribly boring.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Spoken as a true know-nothing. If there's one thing
single
pilot IFR isn't, it's boring. You're not flying in a video game; you're
flying
in real weather.

I hate to be harsh but your statements bring it out of me.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

It works every time....heheheheheh.

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Dave Stadt wrote:
I hope to never fall into that trap. Single engine, single pilot IFR in the
clag is not my definition of reliable or desirable transportation. Anything
beyond that means you are mostly a button pushing knob twisting passenger.
Not much brain activity required and horribly boring.


BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! Spoken as a true know-nothing. If there's one thing single
pilot IFR isn't, it's boring. You're not flying in a video game; you're flying
in real weather.

I hate to be harsh but your statements bring it out of me.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE


I started the first steps toward getting an IFR rating more than 15
years ago. Took the ground school, was bored to death, but certainly
takes some smarts. Flew in the back seat of a Piper Arrow to Oshkosh
IFR with some friends a short time later. One leg was through some
clouds with a few horizontal lightening bolts. Hit my head on the
ceiling a few times. The pilots did ok but I was a wreck nontheless.
After that I resolved to never fly IFR in a light plane.

Later, I think it was Aviation Consumer, showed statics that GA IFR
flying was slightly safer than a motorcycle, and VFR flying slightly
less safe than an automobile.

Sport Pilot wrote:
I started the first steps toward getting an IFR rating more than 15
years ago. Took the ground school, was bored to death, but certainly
takes some smarts. Flew in the back seat of a Piper Arrow to Oshkosh
IFR with some friends a short time later. One leg was through some
clouds with a few horizontal lightening bolts. Hit my head on the
ceiling a few times. The pilots did ok but I was a wreck nontheless.
After that I resolved to never fly IFR in a light plane.


If you'd been the pilot you might have done better. I think it's the feeling of
lack of control that makes people not enjoy the experience. I know as a pilot,
I've never enjoyed those few moments my aircraft has been out of control in
convective events. There is a similar reaction in the car when somebody goes
around curves a little too fast... the driver doesn't mind but the passenger
does. No control. It makes you press your foot to the floor as if there were a
brake pedal there.

All that being said, it's a pity you never had a chance to fly a "good" IFR trip
before you decided you didn't like it: take off into a stratus layer, enjoy a
silky smooth flight followed by an instrument letdown down to maybe 400 feet...
low enough to be a challenge but not so low that you don't know whether you're
going to get in or not.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Sport Pilot wrote:
I started the first steps toward getting an IFR rating more than 15
years ago. Took the ground school, was bored to death, but certainly
takes some smarts. Flew in the back seat of a Piper Arrow to Oshkosh
IFR with some friends a short time later. One leg was through some
clouds with a few horizontal lightening bolts. Hit my head on the
ceiling a few times. The pilots did ok but I was a wreck nontheless.
After that I resolved to never fly IFR in a light plane.


If you'd been the pilot you might have done better. I think it's the feeling of
lack of control that makes people not enjoy the experience. I know as a pilot,
I've never enjoyed those few moments my aircraft has been out of control in
convective events. There is a similar reaction in the car when somebody goes
around curves a little too fast... the driver doesn't mind but the passenger
does. No control. It makes you press your foot to the floor as if there were a
brake pedal there.

All that being said, it's a pity you never had a chance to fly a "good" IFR trip
before you decided you didn't like it: take off into a stratus layer, enjoy a
silky smooth flight followed by an instrument letdown down to maybe 400 feet...
low enough to be a challenge but not so low that you don't know whether you're
going to get in or not.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

VE

It's not just the experiance. I decided that flying by small plane is
such a poor and dangerous form of transportation, that from now on I
will just fly for fun, aka my screen name, which has nothing to do with
the newer sport catagory.

"Sport Pilot" wrote in
ps.com:

Snipola
It's not just the experiance. I decided that flying by small plane is
such a poor and dangerous form of transportation, that from now on I
will just fly for fun, aka my screen name, which has nothing to do with
the newer sport catagory.

I gotta ask, do you still drive a car?

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism

Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Blog: http://www.skywise711.com/Blog

Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes?

Dave Stadt wrote:
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
. ..

Matt Whiting wrote:

Some of us actually like to use our brain. Flying in IMC is a great
exercise of the brain. Also, 3 hours in the clouds in an airplane beats
8 hours in a car in the rain any day! :-)


Or swimming for a month. It takes a long time to swim to the islands.

Frankly, at whatever point you decide to use aviation as a tool rather

than just

entertainment, it behooves you to make it reliable. That just isn't

possible in

an all-VFR world.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN




I hope to never fall into that trap. Single engine, single pilot IFR in the
clag is not my definition of reliable or desirable transportation. Anything
beyond that means you are mostly a button pushing knob twisting passenger.
Not much brain activity required and horribly boring.

It was both reliable and desirable for me for more than 6 years. When I
can own my own airplane again, it'll be the same again. The stats for
IFR flying aren't all that bad for a well-trained pilot in a
well-maintained airplane.

Matt